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Re: ***OFFICIAL ASTROS POST SEASON THREAD***
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10/28/21 02:16 AM
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Is the camera man starting to figure out the signs? How’s the internet in your moms basement? Bless your little heart.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL ASTROS POST SEASON THREAD***
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10/28/21 03:10 AM
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I don’t care one way or the other about the Braves but I can’t root for the cheater Astros Cool, no one asked. ‘Stros up 5-1. ‘Stros in 6! The word Cheaters really gives you butt hurt doesnt it. They may not now, but the fact is they did! Get over it, you dont get this upset when people talk about the Aggies. They all steal signs. And by “they”, I am referring to every team above little league select ball. If you think your team didn’t do it and doesn’t still do you, you’re more naïve than I originally thought. It’s part of baseball, the Astros just figured out how to relay it to the batter better than anyone else. ‘Stros in 6!
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Re: ***OFFICIAL ASTROS POST SEASON THREAD***
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10/28/21 03:44 AM
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I don’t care one way or the other about the Braves but I can’t root for the cheater Astros Cool, no one asked. ‘Stros up 5-1. ‘Stros in 6! The word Cheaters really gives you butt hurt doesnt it. They may not now, but the fact is they did! Get over it, you dont get this upset when people talk about the Aggies. They all steal signs. And by “they”, I am referring to every team above little league select ball. If you think your team didn’t do it and doesn’t still do you, you’re more naïve than I originally thought. It’s part of baseball, t he Astros just figured out how to relay it to the batter better than anyone else. ‘Stros in 6! Thats the stupidest response ever, even for an Aggie. Your an idiot, young one, but an idiot. Great win for the Stros
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Re: ***OFFICIAL ASTROS POST SEASON THREAD***
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10/28/21 12:47 PM
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I don’t care one way or the other about the Braves but I can’t root for the cheater Astros Cool, no one asked. ‘Stros up 5-1. ‘Stros in 6! The word Cheaters really gives you butt hurt doesnt it. They may not now, but the fact is they did! Get over it, you dont get this upset when people talk about the Aggies. They all steal signs. And by “they”, I am referring to every team above little league select ball. If you think your team didn’t do it and doesn’t still do you, you’re more naïve than I originally thought. It’s part of baseball, the Astros just figured out how to relay it to the batter better than anyone else. ‘Stros in 6! As a big Astros fan, and college player from a few years back, I partly agree with this. If you think your favorite teams aren't stealing signs or trying to steal signs in some form or fashion....you are sadly mistaken. We had people (pitchers who were off that particular day) in the dugout who's sole job was to write down signs given by the opposing coaches. Pitching, hitting, it didn't matter. You're trying to gain an edge. If the opposing team has a sequence and you figure it out, then we used it and we relayed it through saying hitter last names or numbers, and through the runner on second base. It happens every game, in any league, with anyone with a comprehensive knowledge of baseball. Where I don't agree with is going beyond that and using technology only available to a particular team. The Astros figured it out....by using a camera...and that's crossing the line...not "relaying it better than anyone else"...a systematic team of people who watched the catchers signs with no one on base? Catchers having to give a sequence of signs with no one on base??? Catchers and pitchers having to change signs in the middle of an at bat with no one on base????? That's too far, and not good for the game. I'm all for trying to gain an edge on an opposing team, by trying to get in their head and use the information given to you, but not with technology. That isn't fair in the slightest. With that being said, I don't like that they cheated, because they did. Am I still a fan? Yes, absolutely. Its not like I, as a fan, was helping them cheat. No one knew at the time. Also, I realize no one asked for this opinion...but I thought some information from a college catcher could shed some light on this. Plus, there were many times our team did have the signs...and did know what pitch was coming...and it doesn't help near as much as you think. You still have to hit it.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL ASTROS POST SEASON THREAD***
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10/28/21 01:43 PM
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As a big Astros fan, and college player from a few years back, I partly agree with this. If you think your favorite teams aren't stealing signs or trying to steal signs in some form or fashion....you are sadly mistaken. We had people (pitchers who were off that particular day) in the dugout who's sole job was to write down signs given by the opposing coaches. Pitching, hitting, it didn't matter. You're trying to gain an edge. If the opposing team has a sequence and you figure it out, then we used it and we relayed it through saying hitter last names or numbers, and through the runner on second base. It happens every game, in any league, with anyone with a comprehensive knowledge of baseball. Where I don't agree with is going beyond that and using technology only available to a particular team. The Astros figured it out....by using a camera...and that's crossing the line...not "relaying it better than anyone else"...a systematic team of people who watched the catchers signs with no one on base? Catchers having to give a sequence of signs with no one on base??? Catchers and pitchers having to change signs in the middle of an at bat with no one on base????? That's too far, and not good for the game. I'm all for trying to gain an edge on an opposing team, by trying to get in their head and use the information given to you, but not with technology. That isn't fair in the slightest.
With that being said, I don't like that they cheated, because they did. Am I still a fan? Yes, absolutely. Its not like I, as a fan, was helping them cheat. No one knew at the time.
Also, I realize no one asked for this opinion...but I thought some information from a college catcher could shed some light on this. Plus, there were many times our team did have the signs...and did know what pitch was coming...and it doesn't help near as much as you think. You still have to hit it.
I agree that utilizing a camera was wrong, but to act like the Astros were the only team in the MLB doing it is comical. There is video of a guy in Yankee stadium doing it in 17 or 18. Part of the reason so many players were upset over the whole deal is because it put an end to their own teams shenanigans. The Astros fell on the sword for the rest of the league.
Fightin' Texas Aggie '14
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Re: ***OFFICIAL ASTROS POST SEASON THREAD***
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10/28/21 03:35 PM
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Thanks SkeeterGuy1, this argument is very old and boring. I'll post this link again just for reference but it didn't affect the playoffs and they beat the Dodgers fair and square in their own building. With that said... let's go Stros! http://signstealingscandal.com/
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Re: ***OFFICIAL ASTROS POST SEASON THREAD***
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10/30/21 12:27 AM
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Bottom of the first for game 3. Light rain and temps in the 50s! Gotta love October baseball. (You Rangers fans might remember it ) Big chief chant going on. Gotta love it!
Fightin' Texas Aggie '14
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Re: ***OFFICIAL ASTROS POST SEASON THREAD***
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10/30/21 12:29 AM
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The home plate umpire needs to get a clue on check swings however.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL ASTROS POST SEASON THREAD***
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10/30/21 12:38 AM
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The home plate umpire needs to get a clue on check swings however. Hallion is a garbage blue. He was the ump behind the dish for the terrible ALDS game between the stros and the white sox when the Sox catcher blatantly into a throw to break up a play at the plate. He also had a terrible strike zone that game, both ways.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL ASTROS POST SEASON THREAD***
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10/30/21 01:33 AM
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Garcia showed some grit there getting two outs with the bases juiced.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL ASTROS POST SEASON THREAD***
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10/30/21 02:08 AM
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The Astros are making a mediocre at best Braves pitcher look like a Cy Young winner. They have forgotten that they have to hit the ball.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL ASTROS POST SEASON THREAD***
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10/30/21 02:24 AM
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Questionable move by Snitker on replacing pitcher with a no hitter, but the new P is a Texan 😁
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Re: ***OFFICIAL ASTROS POST SEASON THREAD***
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10/30/21 03:17 AM
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Swanson is trying to single handedly give the Astros this game....
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Re: ***OFFICIAL ASTROS POST SEASON THREAD***
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10/30/21 03:24 AM
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LOL.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL ASTROS POST SEASON THREAD***
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10/30/21 03:38 AM
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It’s officially a tight series
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