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Re: I haven't posted anything COVID Vax before but: [Re: 9094] #14158522 10/12/21 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 9094
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It's pretty safe unless you are one of the 8,000 that have died from the jab.


That is a BS propaganda number. Even the CDC table that shows it explains that this number includes EVERY person that has died within 6 months of getting the shot regardless of cause of death.

I don’t care if someone else gets the vaccination or not but get tired of all of the lying BS like this on both sides.


Just like the 700k



Re: I haven't posted anything COVID Vax before but: [Re: RayBob] #14158529 10/12/21 02:15 PM
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Two Moderna here, lets be real. NOBODY knows what the long term effects of these vaccines nor contracting Covid will be.

The insane part is the same people in government who cry my body my choice wants the choice of vaccine stripped. If the vaccine guaranteed no more cover that would be different. But to date all the science says you can still catch and spread the virus. It simply helps you not get as sick as you might have otherwise.

Re: I haven't posted anything COVID Vax before but: [Re: RayBob] #14158536 10/12/21 02:21 PM
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I find it interesting the folks who claim to Not care what anyone else chooses, and yet have multiple post stating an opinion either way.

Is that really what “I don’t care what others decide for themselves” look like?


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Re: I haven't posted anything COVID Vax before but: [Re: RayBob] #14158539 10/12/21 02:23 PM
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I'm sure Gov Abbott's EO will be challenged in court. Vaccine Mandates have been held up as legal by the courts in the past and the way the White House EO was written, they only require vaccines for Federal Employees and those on Government Contracts. It bends it a bit with calling all Health Care workers to get vaccinated kind of declaring them Government Contract workers since most involve patients on Medicare, Tricare, or some other Government Health Care Insurance. For all others, the "vaccine mandate" is not a mandate to get vaccinated, but rather a testing mandate where you can get out of the weekly testing by taking the vaccine instead of submitting to the weekly testing.


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Re: I haven't posted anything COVID Vax before but: [Re: AmpedUp] #14158545 10/12/21 02:28 PM
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I don't understand why anyone working at a hospital wouldn't want to be vaccinated. Seems like some good personal protection. I guess I'm missing something about all the folks willing to risk getting really sick or being put on a ventilator, or worse.

thumb Absolutely, I would rather get the vaccine then to get really sick or die!! bang


What if you get the vaccine and get really sick and die like thousands already have?

Re: I haven't posted anything COVID Vax before but: [Re: RayBob] #14158548 10/12/21 02:29 PM
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I hate it, but this the world we live in. Where big city liberals and democrats want to enforce their rules and beliefs on everybody.

Re: I haven't posted anything COVID Vax before but: [Re: Samsonsworld] #14158552 10/12/21 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Samsonsworld
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Stop trying to convince folks COVID is no big deal though. For many people it's downright nasty.


For the vast majority, it is no big deal. So stop the fear mongering.

Yeah...that's just not true.

And for the minority, the chances of death are real and the chances of long term lifestyle impacts are a near certainty. Saying this is no big deal is far beyond absurd.


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Re: I haven't posted anything COVID Vax before but: [Re: ACAMS] #14158554 10/12/21 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ACAMS
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I don't understand why anyone working at a hospital wouldn't want to be vaccinated. Seems like some good personal protection. I guess I'm missing something about all the folks willing to risk getting really sick or being put on a ventilator, or worse.

thumb Absolutely, I would rather get the vaccine then to get really sick or die!! bang


What if you get the vaccine and get really sick and die like thousands already have?

Millions have died without the vaccine. Most of the folks who died after having the vaccine and getting covid were significantly immunocompromised and wouldn't have stood any chance against covid without the vaccine either. Study after study disproves everything that the far right is saying about covid and the vaccines.


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Re: I haven't posted anything COVID Vax before but: [Re: CKINCAID] #14158556 10/12/21 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris B
It's pretty safe unless you are one of the 8,000 that have died from the jab.

This has been disproven so many times it's comical for anyone to try to pass it off as fact now...


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Re: I haven't posted anything COVID Vax before but: [Re: RayBob] #14158568 10/12/21 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RayBob
Apparently Gov. Abbott signed an executive order preventing any forced COVID vaccinations. This includes by any private entity.

My wife was being forced to take the poke by Nov 1 or lose her job at her hospital. She's been very upset about this.

order prohibitting vaccine madate within Texas

Nurses were being let go all over the state and many were taking the "vax" they didn't want to take just to put food on their tables.






So this order speaks directly to the Covid-19 vaccine. But the language used outside of the written order speaks towards vaccine mandates.
I believe some jobs, maybe like our healthcare system, vaccines are a job requirement.

If I'm right about the job requirement of up to date vaccinations;
Do you think this executive order over-rides only the covid-19 vaccination or will these employers with vaccine requirements be exempt and their employees will still need the covid vaccine to comply with their job requirements?


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Re: I haven't posted anything COVID Vax before but: [Re: RayBob] #14158570 10/12/21 02:51 PM
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We need a good fight between the states and the federal gov. The white house cannot dictate behavior to the very unique and different states

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Keep in mind too that the federal government controls the federal dollars industries like medicine. law enforcement and others depend on to operate. If the feds threaten to cut those dollars off it will put those organizations in a difficult position to enforce mandates or go broke.


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Re: I haven't posted anything COVID Vax before but: [Re: Holzer] #14158573 10/12/21 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Holzer
Originally Posted by RayBob
Apparently Gov. Abbott signed an executive order preventing any forced COVID vaccinations. This includes by any private entity.

My wife was being forced to take the poke by Nov 1 or lose her job at her hospital. She's been very upset about this.

order prohibitting vaccine madate within Texas

Nurses were being let go all over the state and many were taking the "vax" they didn't want to take just to put food on their tables.






So this order speaks directly to the Covid-19 vaccine. But the language used outside of the written order speaks towards vaccine mandates.
I believe some jobs, maybe like our healthcare system, vaccines are a job requirement.

If I'm right about the job requirement of up to date vaccinations;
Do you think this executive order over-rides only the covid-19 vaccination or will these employers with vaccine requirements be exempt and their employees will still need the covid vaccine to comply with their job requirements?


Kind of like how the schools got around his anti-mask EO, they simply made masks part of their dress code.


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Re: I haven't posted anything COVID Vax before but: [Re: Jpurdue] #14158594 10/12/21 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jpurdue
A solid half dozen people from this forum are dead from COVID. A bunch others have had it and are still dealing with long term damage. They openly write about their hardship. Yet we still have people on here arguing against the vaccine and saying COVID is no big deal. 99.78% chance you won't be impacted. Nothing more than the flu. Only kills old people with comorbidities...

99.78% odds of being fine is a nationwide average pumped up by 100 million youths who are almost completely unimpacted. Odds are, you are not average. News flash, most of you on this forum are old. Most of you are clinically overweight. Many have high blood pressure, asthma, diabetes, etc...

Odds are if you get COVID you do not have a 99.78% chance of coming out the other side completely unscathed. Your risk assessment math is way off.

The vaccine has been injected into billions of people across the globe. It's safe and effective at minimizing the risk of sever disease.

If you want the vaccine it, get it. If you don't, don't. Stop trying to convince folks COVID is no big deal though. For many people it's downright nasty.


That's the sad truth. We have had more than .02% of the people on the TFF die from Covid. I personally know four who have died, and I don't know 20,000 people.

Get the shot or don't get the shot. It's your call. I've had three of them. So far I haven't grown a third arm, which would come in handy when trying to net fish.

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