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Re: Any trial Lawyers here? I need one. [Re: ReelSlow] #14106392 08/24/21 02:57 PM
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Maybe it's the salesman in me, but if they want your tree's they want your land. Take advantage and sell before your the little country property next to a subdivision.

Re: Any trial Lawyers here? I need one. [Re: ReelSlow] #14106453 08/24/21 03:50 PM
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Re: Any trial Lawyers here? I need one. [Re: WAWI] #14106462 08/24/21 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by WAWI
Be prepared that they may not be willing to take this on a contingency deal, basically you will be paying and that can be a hard go against someone big as them. The best you may be able to hope for is a few nasty letters and hope they work with you. While it seems like alot lawyers pretty much can make a good guess at what something will be worth to them. A comapny I was involved in went after a big company on a "principle based deal" and while the other company settled it was damn expensive, ie spent about 4 times in legal above the settlement. #not really winning..... legal fees were an ugly massive number. 7 digit after the decimal, 2 comma type number. This isnt nearly as complicated but..... have you considered asking them to compensate you for the time the fence is down, and maybe plant you a bunch of new trees? Maybe build you a nice new fence..... that might be a better angle to start with. You will probably be selling to them or some other developer soon anyway.

Yep, I would try to work amicably with them. Flies and honey. If you catch em on a bad day they can bleed you dry dragging this thing out.

Re: Any trial Lawyers here? I need one. [Re: Emit R Detsaw] #14106476 08/24/21 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Emit R Detsaw
You might be able to get them to replant trees on your property, away from their retaining walls. Just think how mad you would have been if they had pruned all the trees off like the picture below and then removed the half of the root-ball on their side of the property, probably killing the trees or causing the to fall onto your side?
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I ended up in court with a neighbor over this right here. He ruined the trees cutting them just like in your picture.

I lost.

Re: Any trial Lawyers here? I need one. [Re: ReelSlow] #14106533 08/24/21 04:43 PM
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Did you file criminal charges for the illegal removal of the trees? I would tell the DR Horton project manager that any person steps across the property line will be issued a trespass citation. The citation is a warning. Second offense is a fine and/or jail time. Good luck with your legal pursuit. I hope you get a nice settlement check from them.


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Re: Any trial Lawyers here? I need one. [Re: ReelSlow] #14106585 08/24/21 05:16 PM
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Before you talk to an Attorney, or DRH, get a copy of the most recent most accurate survey you can get that shows where the fence line and tree line is in relationship to the actual boundary line.

Horton may have already done one and you may not like the results.

Re: Any trial Lawyers here? I need one. [Re: ReelSlow] #14106590 08/24/21 05:20 PM
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Who's side of the fence were the trees on?

Re: Any trial Lawyers here? I need one. [Re: WAWI] #14106624 08/24/21 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by WAWI
Be prepared that they may not be willing to take this on a contingency deal, basically you will be paying and that can be a hard go against someone big as them. The best you may be able to hope for is a few nasty letters and hope they work with you. While it seems like alot lawyers pretty much can make a good guess at what something will be worth to them. A comapny I was involved in went after a big company on a "principle based deal" and while the other company settled it was damn expensive, ie spent about 4 times in legal above the settlement. #not really winning..... legal fees were an ugly massive number. 7 digit after the decimal, 2 comma type number. This isnt nearly as complicated but..... have you considered asking them to compensate you for the time the fence is down, and maybe plant you a bunch of new trees? Maybe build you a nice new fence..... that might be a better angle to start with. You will probably be selling to them or some other developer soon anyway.


I agree with WAWI, I still cannot believe a company as large as DRH would just march in and cut trees down that do not even belong to them, that is about as dumb as a fence post.


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Re: Any trial Lawyers here? I need one. [Re: Happykamper] #14107457 08/25/21 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by WAWI
Be prepared that they may not be willing to take this on a contingency deal, basically you will be paying and that can be a hard go against someone big as them. The best you may be able to hope for is a few nasty letters and hope they work with you. While it seems like alot lawyers pretty much can make a good guess at what something will be worth to them. A comapny I was involved in went after a big company on a "principle based deal" and while the other company settled it was damn expensive, ie spent about 4 times in legal above the settlement. #not really winning..... legal fees were an ugly massive number. 7 digit after the decimal, 2 comma type number. This isnt nearly as complicated but..... have you considered asking them to compensate you for the time the fence is down, and maybe plant you a bunch of new trees? Maybe build you a nice new fence..... that might be a better angle to start with. You will probably be selling to them or some other developer soon anyway.


I agree with WAWI, I still cannot believe a company as large as DRH would just march in and cut trees down that do not even belong to them, that is about as dumb as a fence post.




mcmansion builders don't care, they write a certain amount in to the price of every home they build to cover this stuff. it is easier/faster to just do what you want and let the legal team deal with the results. they have bank draws set on progress, more progress means more money available etc.

do anything and everything concerning communications with them either by email or preferably by certified, signature required letters.

as for the survey, I am pretty sure the fence line will be considered grandfathered in if it has been there over 15 yrs. with no complaints.
like I posted, let them know you are going to charge them for any and all access, written permission only. trespassers will have the gw called on them.

also curious why they need retaining walls on flat ground, from the cow pic I see no need for any.


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Re: Any trial Lawyers here? I need one. [Re: ReelSlow] #14107480 08/25/21 12:35 PM
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And be clear that I'm not making a judgment on who is right or wrong or poo pooing the claim. I'm merely saying dont get your Hope's up for any real relief and know what you are getting into. I had a ring side seat for a David vs Goliath lawsuit over some iffy stuff and while technically goliath settled it damn near broke david into little bitty pieces and david was not made whole by a long shot. David would have been way, way better off taking the initial go away offer. A company like DR Horton will have more and better lawyers than you can probably afford, I'm guessing here as to your postion, any lawyer you get will know this, and they will drowned him and you in junk and time. Things like this could take years. That's a tough pill to swallow if you think or know you are right but it is what it is. I had a business law professor who walked into class and the first thing he said was the golden rule, he who has the gold rules. I'm not saying it's the truest thing I ever heard but it's a top 3 for sure.

Re: Any trial Lawyers here? I need one. [Re: ReelSlow] #14107507 08/25/21 01:04 PM
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^^^ Solid advice.

Re: Any trial Lawyers here? I need one. [Re: ReelSlow] #14107652 08/25/21 03:07 PM
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I don't handle litigation, but PM me and I can give you a couple of attorneys to talk with - they'll shoot straight with you.

Re: Any trial Lawyers here? I need one. [Re: WAWI] #14107661 08/25/21 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by WAWI
And be clear that I'm not making a judgment on who is right or wrong or poo pooing the claim. I'm merely saying dont get your Hope's up for any real relief and know what you are getting into. I had a ring side seat for a David vs Goliath lawsuit over some iffy stuff and while technically goliath settled it damn near broke david into little bitty pieces and david was not made whole by a long shot. David would have been way, way better off taking the initial go away offer. A company like DR Horton will have more and better lawyers than you can probably afford, I'm guessing here as to your postion, any lawyer you get will know this, and they will drowned him and you in junk and time. Things like this could take years. That's a tough pill to swallow if you think or know you are right but it is what it is. I had a business law professor who walked into class and the first thing he said was the golden rule, he who has the gold rules. I'm not saying it's the truest thing I ever heard but it's a top 3 for sure.

Excellent advice!! My two cents...emotion and litigation don’t mix...and unfortunately...litigation is like an emotion super-spreader event that only infects the “David’s” (using WAWI’s example). Goliath enters the arena and will compete for however long it takes, completely detached from emotion.

Shed the emotion and think thru “What (minimum) actions could they take to better (not solve) the situation?” If it’s something based on a “principle”, go back and shed more emotion until it’s no longer grounded in a principle. The cows need the shade they lost? See if DR will plant some trees...etc. That kind of stuff.

In no way does it feel like you’re wrong, but IMO, they can out-fund and out-litigate principle/emotion. Find a quick win, take it and move on.

Re: Any trial Lawyers here? I need one. [Re: ReelSlow] #14107688 08/25/21 03:36 PM
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Re: Any trial Lawyers here? I need one. [Re: ReelSlow] #14107808 08/25/21 05:32 PM
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My father went after the contractor who cut all the trees down on lake Lewisville about 10 years ago. He had deep pockets and government connections. The contractor settled by using the fine from the trees cut on the south side of his development to pay for the drainage work needed on the north side of the development. The drainage work was going to be required for any further permits. In the end my father and his neighbors got 0 dollars and a ton of legal fees.


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