Much of the industrial huge machines are electric operated though they are usually connected to a remote generator. And BTW, the petroleum industry is heavily subsidized plus we have fought wars over petroleum at huge expense and loss of life. We are not there yet, but I think as the technology develops, there is a good chance we will get there.

What wars are you talking about?

all of the wars in the middle east are for two reasons ---- protect American interest oversea's AKA - OIL and generate profits for the " war " machine in Washington .
THe two strongest lobbying groups pushing our so called leaders ----- medical and military

We were energy independent.

Well, I guess I'm screwed to the wall. Thanks again you tree hugging perverts.

You bought all the Russian propaganda. They want the region to themselves. You a ruski?

What a laugh. You are as disconnected from reality as one can get.

Every current member of TTF will be long dead before any of the things you list become a problem.

Tiny Tarantula Faction?

Tried to find the meaning but no success. Everyone acts like it is EV soon or walk when it is going to take generations to transition to whatever is next.

When it comes to crude we are but a lot of our refineries are not set up to handle American crude. They are set up to run on that heavy imported stuff.

No kidding man...... If you need a really good laugh one day, just go to his profile and forum posts, it is really hard to imagine anyone that disconnected from reality.

Somehow he is Tallgrass reincarnated ..... I'd love to be a fly on the wall with Donothin, Allison, Tallgrass & Emit having a discussion, imagine the crazy ideas that meeting would produce.

Agree. Just try to build a new one.

Most high end apartments already have them. It started well before Biden. Even before trump. To be fair most of the subsidies come from the state or the utility provider, not the federal level.