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Re: Bois D’Arc updates... she’s filling. [Re: Colton D] #13974415 04/26/21 05:17 PM
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Everyone start hauling & broadcasting hydrilla stems in. . .

And please no sandbass!

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Re: Bois D’Arc updates... she’s filling. [Re: Larry Mosby] #13974428 04/26/21 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Mosby
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Originally Posted by Allison1
If what I read earlier in this thread is true, that they have put Share fish into this lake, it does not have a chance to become a Fork. For its first years they did not stock anything but Florida fish into Fork.
With Sharelunker fish it won't have as many pure Florida fish in it.

Aren't all the fish that the ShareLunker program breeds pure Florida strain? I mean I know Norther/Florida crosses are caught and turned in to the program, but only the pure Florida's are introduced into the program and spawned?

I thought the logic of the 13lb fish was they would know it is 100% Fl bass. No electricity of the other genes allow the fish to reach 13 lbs


No that’s not the case. I caught a legacy ShareLunker in 2017 and though it was proven genetically to be an offspring of another Sharelunker previously caught from a different lake mine wasn’t pure Florida strain. If they’re not pure Florida then they want use the fry for brood fish or donate them to another lake, all the fry will be returned back to the lake the none pure Florida was caught from.


Excellent point Larry. Congrats again!



Re: Bois D’Arc updates... she’s filling. [Re: JacksonBean] #13974442 04/26/21 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JacksonBean
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Sammy I'm looking at the aerial photos of the dam site and looks like they raped most of the old growth timber out of there. Thats what made Fork special they left a bunch of that.


Let's say it contributed to what made Fork so special. Fork was the golden child of the TP&WL. Bois D'Arc is like a step cousin that might or might not be related by blood. I agree though..... Leave the timber.

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It was more than just timber that made Fork special. Wood County is the largest milk producer in the world. Hundreds of dairy farms around Fork. Every time it rained it fertilized the lake and everything in it. That fertilizer and the way the brood ponds were stocked prior to the lake filling were huge contributors to the lake's success.

Think about this: Fork finished filling and made final pool of 403' above sea level in 1985 and then in Nov 1986 Mark Stevenson caught Ethel at 17.67. That should tell you what kind of fish were swimming around in the brood ponds.



Re: Bois D’Arc updates... she’s filling. [Re: LittleGazoo] #13974463 04/26/21 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleGazoo
Everyone start hauling & broadcasting hydrilla stems in. . .

And please no sandbass!

Please.


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Re: Bois D’Arc updates... she’s filling. [Re: Chris B] #13974644 04/26/21 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris B
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Everyone start hauling & broadcasting hydrilla stems in. . .

And please no sandbass!

Please.



Not sure, You would want to get caught.

Re: Bois D’Arc updates... she’s filling. [Re: Colton D] #13974729 04/26/21 09:18 PM
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Based on the Tax rate in Fannin County, doubt I will be moving that way. 2.4, thats right up there with Houston, Dallas Austin if I read the property tax rate right.


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Re: Bois D’Arc updates... she’s filling. [Re: Larry Mosby] #13974794 04/26/21 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Allison1
If what I read earlier in this thread is true, that they have put Share fish into this lake, it does not have a chance to become a Fork. For its first years they did not stock anything but Florida fish into Fork.
With Sharelunker fish it won't have as many pure Florida fish in it.



hmmm I think there's some confusion. You might refer to a 13+ lb bass as a ShareLunker but only the pure Floridas are kept for breeding. In other words, stocking ShareLunker fingerlings is stocking Florida fingerlings. This might not have been the rule from the start but it's how they do it now. This lake won't be a Fork for a laundry list of reasons but there will be some great genetics swimmming around in your inaugural class of fish and they are doing it right by giving the bluegill a nice head start.



Originally Posted by Larry Mosby
No that’s not the case. I caught a legacy ShareLunker in 2017 and though it was proven genetically to be an offspring of another Sharelunker previously caught from a different lake mine wasn’t pure Florida strain. If they’re not pure Florida then they want use the fry for brood fish or donate them to another lake, all the fry will be returned back to the lake the none pure Florida was caught from.


Most LMB swimming around in our lakes are intergrades of varying degrees. There's some "non-Florida" genetics in the vast majority and you can look at the results of years past to see that hasn't changed. ShareLunkers also spawn while in the wild so the presence of the same genetic material in your fish can mean a whole lot of different things.

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Originally Posted by JacksonBean
Originally Posted by Allison1
If what I read earlier in this thread is true, that they have put Share fish into this lake, it does not have a chance to become a Fork. For its first years they did not stock anything but Florida fish into Fork.
With Sharelunker fish it won't have as many pure Florida fish in it.



hmmm I think there's some confusion. You might refer to a 13+ lb bass as a ShareLunker but only the pure Floridas are kept for breeding. In other words, stocking ShareLunker fingerlings is stocking Florida fingerlings. This might not have been the rule from the start but it's how they do it now. This lake won't be a Fork for a laundry list of reasons but there will be some great genetics swimmming around in your inaugural class of fish and they are doing it right by giving the bluegill a nice head start.



Originally Posted by Larry Mosby
No that’s not the case. I caught a legacy ShareLunker in 2017 and though it was proven genetically to be an offspring of another Sharelunker previously caught from a different lake mine wasn’t pure Florida strain. If they’re not pure Florida then they want use the fry for brood fish or donate them to another lake, all the fry will be returned back to the lake the none pure Florida was caught from.


Most LMB swimming around in our lakes are intergrades of varying degrees. There's some "non-Florida" genetics in the vast majority and you can look at the results of years past to see that hasn't changed. ShareLunkers also spawn while in the wild so the presence of the same genetic material in your fish can mean a whole lot of different things.

J



They did electrofish everything out of the ponds before stocking. So the F1 genetics should be high
Sure, some native in the creeks may pass theough, but that's definitely not a bad thing!


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Re: Bois D’Arc updates... she’s filling. [Re: Colton D] #13975127 04/27/21 01:29 AM
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Well Lake Bohnam is releasing water into it right now so chances are there are some natives getting in.


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Re: Bois D’Arc updates... she’s filling. [Re: Colton D] #13975161 04/27/21 01:42 AM
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Guess Bonham Lake caught a lot of water last week. Drove down Saturday evening to look at Boisdarc and 1396 road was under water. They put a cable across the road at top of the hill to keep people from driving down it.

Re: Bois D’Arc updates... she’s filling. [Re: Billy Blazer 300 HPDI] #13975162 04/27/21 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Billy Blazer 300 HPDI
Based on the Tax rate in Fannin County, doubt I will be moving that way. 2.4, thats right up there with Houston, Dallas Austin if I read the property tax rate right.


There is some High Rent Districts up in there! OMG


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Re: Bois D’Arc updates... she’s filling. [Re: Colton D] #13975366 04/27/21 05:37 AM
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If any of you are interested in signing up for email updates directly from North Texas Water District about the lake, the email updates are very informative. Here is the link.
https://boisdarclake.org/enewsletter-signup/
Here is a link in the email, and today's email had the story about the giant oxygenator they are installing by the dam, some pretty interesting information in the emails.
https://ntmwd.us19.list-manage.com/...36196&id=494e339062&e=420437bee3

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Re: Bois D’Arc updates... she’s filling. [Re: BigDozer66] #13975390 04/27/21 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BigDozer66
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Based on the Tax rate in Fannin County, doubt I will be moving that way. 2.4, thats right up there with Houston, Dallas Austin if I read the property tax rate right.


There is some High Rent Districts up in there! OMG



lol, 95% of fannin is rural farm/ranch land, ag exempt stuff.

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Re: Bois D’Arc updates... she’s filling. [Re: Kodyjoe] #13975393 04/27/21 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Kodyjoe
Guess Bonham Lake caught a lot of water last week. Drove down Saturday evening to look at Boisdarc and 1396 road was under water. They put a cable across the road at top of the hill to keep people from driving down it.


don't think they want to let it flood fm 273 again, the locals may not tolerate it again. lol
very possible it could be full by next spring, open is another story.

the watershed for the lake directly is huge, add in bonham and you have some water. bonham was high yesterday when I went over so I expect they will keep feeding bois d'arc.
in 2015 the lake would have filled in 3-4 months, I ended up not being able to get to paris, honey grove or bonham for 3 days, bois d'arc ran well over 30' over flood for about 4 days, texoma overran the spillway for reference.

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