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Re: Champs Roberts
[Re: petro]
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04/16/21 07:02 PM
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Mark Perry
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I know Mark and I have weighed a dead fish in Champs at Sabine. We got a check but that 1lb cost us a lot of places and few bucks. Cost us the Sportsman' Network bonus that would have doubled our winnings. I have also came in with 6 fish tbat I simply miscounted while catching schooling fish. I self reported it as soon as I noticed it. Cost the win and a good check. I don't think winning or a check is worth our integrity.
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Re: Champs Roberts
[Re: TinRangerJim]
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04/16/21 07:06 PM
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Jobie99
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So they culled a dead fish? I guess you are supposed to leave the dead one alone, and cull the smallest live fish? That's how you are supposed to do it...throw back the smallest live one, keep and weigh the dead one along with your other keepers, take the dead fish penalty (one pound for Champs) and let the cards fall where they may. If they had done that, it probably would have dropped them a position or two but they still might have cashed a check without worrying about the cloud of a DQ hanging over them My brother and I had a fish die in a Basschamps event on Amistad in 2011 and it cost us $15,000. We were off the water at noon on account of some mechanical issues. We were so dialed in that day and probably threw back another 10 fish over 4 4lbs. I’m confident we could’ve culled up if we were able to fish the rest of the day. Best bad day of fishing ever for me LOL!!!
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Re: Champs Roberts
[Re: Dubee]
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04/16/21 07:28 PM
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JoshMan734
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I'm waiting for one of them to come on here and try to claim they didn't have a dead fish. It miraculously came back to life. My guess is they won't have video of that. ![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2021/04/full-52768-92961-6405c79b_5986_4c16_9937_77b5acc63581.png)
#LFG #TeamDobyns
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Re: Champs Roberts
[Re: JoshMan734]
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04/16/21 07:29 PM
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JoshMan734
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Here is what I got sent this morning... weird I got the text as I’m just a simple observer of what’s going on. But I’d imagine a few ppl wouldn’t mind saying it to his face.
#LFG #TeamDobyns
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Re: Champs Roberts
[Re: JoshMan734]
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04/16/21 07:32 PM
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TDR2
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Re: Champs Roberts
[Re: JoshMan734]
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04/16/21 07:33 PM
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Tiltman
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Well that just got interesting.............
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Re: Champs Roberts
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04/16/21 07:33 PM
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horseplaydvm
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They definitely did something against the rules. Did they cheat? BC rules say you get a 1 lb penalty for bringing in a dead fish. Did they cull with a 6 lb or heavier fish to replace the 7 lb fish? That would be cheating no doubt. I think they broke a rule and got penalized. Don't hang them yet. Hopefully they learned a valuable lesson. Time will tell. What? Not only did they knowingly do it, which is obvious from the whispering on the video. They purposely broke a state law. There is no doubt they blatantly cheated. Your attempt to find a grey area in the rules means you would try to do something shady yourself if you thought you could get away with it. I said they "definitely did something against the rules". I don't know these guys and really don't care. Im not defending them. I was merely trying to state that if they cheated to gain an advantage then I wasn't sure if they did by culling a dead 7 lb fish. The advantage would be if they culled a dead 7 lb fish with a heavier fish or one that was more than 6 lbs to offset the 1 lb penalty. Not trying to find a grey area in the rules. They broke a rule and got penalized. Im sure Chad has dealt with plenty of dishonest people over the years fishing Bass Champs and he knows how to handle the punishment without the guys on the TFF's help. Sorry I hit a nerve with some of you guys! No need for anyone to attack me personally.
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Re: Champs Roberts
[Re: Allison1]
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04/16/21 07:34 PM
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grout-scout
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Did they know it was a violation or just ignorant would be important for me to know.
I know Chad will make the right decision. He's good people.
You don’t whisper, or even mention it, if you don’t know it’s not legal. Come on now... I watched the video and heard nothing but when I went to You Tube and read the description I now understand. When did they say or whisper it? 37 second mark on the video posted. (The original video, on the first page, not the video a few post up) I don’t know the guys and won’t crucify them, but they screwed up and they need to accept the punishment.
Last edited by grout-scout; 04/16/21 07:35 PM.
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Re: Champs Roberts
[Re: JoshMan734]
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04/16/21 07:50 PM
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James P.
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Seems like someone now is breaking another law, by threatening to do harm to another person. This guy has no Common sense. Now it’s not just a rule violation. Now the police can get involved. Bad deal just got worse for them or him.
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Re: Champs Roberts
[Re: JoshMan734]
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04/16/21 07:58 PM
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SmalljawNH
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Don't say anything about the dead one, just pull it out.
We are not cheaters and I will beat someones [sic] *** if I hear them say it when I'm around !
The first statement from their video shows intent to violate a law. The second statement is a threat to anyone with an opinion on the first. If you don't believe their version of the story, they're just going to assault you so you realize how upstanding they are.
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Re: Champs Roberts
[Re: JoshMan734]
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04/16/21 08:04 PM
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Dale Gribble
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I step away for a few minutes and all hell breaks loose!
Cranking’ Craig says the fish was alive the whole time after Ol’ Rooster says toss out the stiff one but be quiet about it. Now Crankin’ Craig wants to whip Fulton’s butt for implying they’re cheaters! Lol! That’s a good one! Team Bandito better tread lightly with Fulton because he’s got a rolodex of guys to fight for him and by gawd he’s not afraid to use it!
Sorry Team Bandito, I don’t buy they sad sack story of bad editing not showing you bring a corpse back to life. The only bad editing was the part where Rooster put his beak to your ear and self incriminated.
Winner winner Chicken dinner!
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Re: Champs Roberts
[Re: JoshMan734]
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04/16/21 08:10 PM
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ssmith
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Re: Champs Roberts
[Re: JoshMan734]
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04/16/21 08:11 PM
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buda13
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Where does the line start to call them cheaters to their face? I figure it’s gonna be a long one.
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Re: Champs Roberts
[Re: buda13]
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04/16/21 08:11 PM
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SmalljawNH
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Where does the line start to call them cheaters to their face? I figure it’s gonna be a long one and I’d sure like to be in it. Behind you, I guess 
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Re: Champs Roberts
[Re: SmalljawNH]
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04/16/21 08:15 PM
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grout-scout
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Where does the line start to call them cheaters to their face? I figure it’s gonna be a long one and I’d sure like to be in it. Behind you, I guess  
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