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Re: Champs Roberts [Re: Dubee] #13962769 04/16/21 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubee
[quote=Saltymustache]You who are without sin, cast the first stone. John 8:7. Heat of the moment mistake. These guys are human, let's not forget that.


Bullsh*t. That is not a heat of the moment mistake. It's premeditated cheating. And I can cast a stone. In 30+ years of fishing tournaments. I've never cheated or even thought about it[/quote]

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Re: Champs Roberts [Re: JoshMan734] #13962771 04/16/21 05:05 PM
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Also aren"t you supposed to cull before you go back to fishing!


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Re: Champs Roberts [Re: JoshMan734] #13962792 04/16/21 05:26 PM
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Did they know it was a violation or just ignorant would be important for me to know.

I know Chad will make the right decision. He's good people.


Re: Champs Roberts [Re: JoshMan734] #13962807 04/16/21 05:34 PM
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Clearly they knew they were cheating. That’s why he whispered it. These tournaments are hard enough to win without guys cheating and finishing in front of you. Hopefully that was their last tournament ever.


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Re: Champs Roberts [Re: Allison1] #13962834 04/16/21 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Allison1
Did they know it was a violation or just ignorant would be important for me to know.

I know Chad will make the right decision. He's good people.



You don’t whisper, or even mention it, if you don’t know it’s not legal. Come on now...


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Re: Champs Roberts [Re: JoshMan734] #13962845 04/16/21 06:02 PM
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How much money was on the line?

Re: Champs Roberts [Re: JoshMan734] #13962851 04/16/21 06:04 PM
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I'm waiting for one of them to come on here and try to claim they didn't have a dead fish. It miraculously came back to life. My guess is they won't have video of that.

Re: Champs Roberts [Re: TDR2] #13962852 04/16/21 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TDR2
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Did they know it was a violation or just ignorant would be important for me to know.

I know Chad will make the right decision. He's good people.



You don’t whisper, or even mention it, if you don’t know it’s not legal. Come on now...


I watched the video and heard nothing but when I went to You Tube and read the description I now understand.
When did they say or whisper it?


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As much as we all hate to admit it, this kind of stuff probably goes on all the time. If nothing else, some very shady, borderline rule breaking takes place at every major tournament I would almost bet money. The Tuesday "hero shots" taken at the ramp prove just how big the egos are in this sport. People want to win and some will cheat to do it.


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Re: Champs Roberts [Re: Allison1] #13962863 04/16/21 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Allison1
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Did they know it was a violation or just ignorant would be important for me to know.

I know Chad will make the right decision. He's good people.



You don’t whisper, or even mention it, if you don’t know it’s not legal. Come on now...


I watched the video and heard nothing but when I went to You Tube and read the description I now understand.
When did they say or whisper it?




It was plain as day

Re: Champs Roberts [Re: Chris B] #13962865 04/16/21 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris B
Clearly they knew they were cheating. That’s why he whispered it. These tournaments are hard enough to win without guys cheating and finishing in front of you. Hopefully that was their last tournament ever.


⬆ 100%. Sadly, cheating probably happens more than we think it does. If you can feel good about your "accomplishments" as a cheater, you lack an important ingredient in life, and that's character. Thank you for the bump in standings... even though it still sucks.


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Re: Champs Roberts [Re: Dubee] #13962886 04/16/21 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubee
I'm waiting for one of them to come on here and try to claim they didn't have a dead fish. It miraculously came back to life. My guess is they won't have video of that.



Someone shared a screenshot of a text they got from one of them saying something to that effect.

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Originally Posted by J.H.S.
As much as we all hate to admit it, this kind of stuff probably goes on all the time. If nothing else, some very shady, borderline rule breaking takes place at every major tournament I would almost bet money. The Tuesday "hero shots" taken at the ramp prove just how big the egos are in this sport. People want to win and some will cheat to do it.


You are correct this goes on in little events like working mans. No polygraph and people know it. We have had a couple out here.
My partner and I had 6 fish in the livewell at a Media open event last fall and of course told the TD we did. Lost a check because of it, but slept well.
One guy said he would have just left it in the livewell. Nobody would have known. My partner and I would have known!

But in a big event like Champs I think it doesn't happen very often. Or hope it doesn't.

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Originally Posted by Mark Perry
Originally Posted by Dubee
I'm waiting for one of them to come on here and try to claim they didn't have a dead fish. It miraculously came back to life. My guess is they won't have video of that.



Someone shared a screenshot of a text they got from one of them saying something to that effect.


Trying to save face is all that is.


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Re: Champs Roberts [Re: JoshMan734] #13962905 04/16/21 06:54 PM
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I know Mark and I have weighed a dead fish in Champs at Sabine. We got a check but that 1lb cost us a lot of places and few bucks.

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