Ill give it to you. you stick by your guns.

So let me just ask one last time....what am I wrong about? That I called something the "early days" that you dont feel means early days? I never said anything like "rackley worked with them when they started" which is pretty much what you keep circling back to. Its 2020....he was with them in 2010....that was 10 years....my apologies that I call 10 years ago "the early days" i guess I was wrong. But again....never did I say he worked with LFT when they started...but you masterfully twisted that into your definition of what early days means.

Even your own definition of "first 5 years" makes zero sense.....because like the post i quoted earlier, you do not even know when LFT was started. So how can you determine the "first 5 years" so well? Reaching hard 🤷‍♂️

Heres the thread for some context. page 3, 4th post down.

https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/13952397/4

Umm. Are you still buzzing....it’s 2021 bruh.

You are right. No matter how old a company is. If he ever had anything to do with them you can call it their early years.

How bout you guys take it off line?? I posted this to show some big fish history about Fork. We don't need 3 pages of carp about who did what at LFT & when.

I definitely think new technology and new ideas will show there are monsters we never knew about out there, probably a state record somewhere here and a world record somewhere in the country.

I do honestly believe this 100%! Just going off what you read and how it says bass have gotten harder to catch (i think there is science behind this too). How efforts are made to place habitat and create situations suited for growing big bass.....then pair those facts with the rumblings you hear from someone like Denny Brauer who says things like Amistad having giants that are on deep ledges and impossible to catch, it really makes you think. The fact that 2 lake records died and were never caught in their lake record levels should also lend some credence to the idea that they are still out there lurking today.....and that we STILL cant catch them

Ken, do you recall any 16-18’s ever being found floating? These fish found were before LMB virus was discovered, correct? (I don’t remember what year that was found).

I have to agree with Ken on this one. I don’t see the state record being broke in the next 20 years. Just because Denny says there are “giants” in Amistad doesn’t qualify a 19lb bass. I can think of a few other lakes that have a better chance.

I think if there was an 18lb+ fish swimming in any lake in the last 10-15 years then someone would have found one floating dead like before. Most lakes are past their prime and IMO the removal of Hydrilla has hurt more than anything.

The virus first hit Fork in Summer of 1999. I was there one day and we caught 42 fish off one deep ledge in 20' of water, with 20 in the 4-6# class. Four days later the fish were still stacked on the same spot but would hardly bite. The few we did get to bite did not jump when you hooked them. You could tell they were sickly. A week later I start hearing about all the thousands of 4-7 pound bass floating dead all over the lake. It was strange.

It seemed like it just hit the middle class fish the hardest. I do not know of any giants found floating during that period but by '99 I was only at Fork 2 days a week.

Fork never rebounded. There are a bunch of folks around the lake that will tell you it did in the mid-2000's but I would challenge it. Sure there have still been some giants caught since 1999 at Fortk but the sheer numbers of 4-8# fish have never been even close to what it was Pre-LMBV.

I miss the 90's

Me & you both bro

That's Him!

Same thing on Rayburn at that time. I remember it was so hard to even get bit. We fished an Anglers Choice in May and water temps were in the 90's. Every fish was sick looking

so many things to say to that... I'll go with

Most nights I'd rather have a bowl of ice cream than reproduce...so I'd be very catchable