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Tax by the mile...
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03/26/21 04:27 PM
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John175☮
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LOL! "One area of potential agreement — at least on highway funding — is a vehicle-miles-traveled (VMT) system that would charge drivers a penny or two for each mile logged behind the wheel. The idea has been under consideration for years, and several states, including Oregon and Utah, are currently running pilots to test the technology and consumer acceptance. Supporters say it's a way to ensure that electric vehicle owners — who currently pay no fuel taxes — chip in their fair share for road maintenance. (29 states have imposed alternative annual fees on EVs in the meantime.) Buttigieg is open to a VMT. "We’re obviously going to have to come to more solutions if we’re going to preserve the user-paid principle," he told lawmakers Thursday." https://www.axios.com/tax-drivers-g...32788db-7dd3-4c1b-b884-ab5334ec5cae.html
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Re: Tax by the mile...
[Re: John175☮]
#13937478
03/26/21 04:57 PM
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LoneStarSon
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I did the math when I read about this a couple of weeks ago. If they do .01, I'll save money, if they do .02, I'm screwed.
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Re: Tax by the mile...
[Re: John175☮]
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03/26/21 04:59 PM
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TexDawg
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Re: Tax by the mile...
[Re: LoneStarSon]
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03/26/21 05:06 PM
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JCG57
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I did the math when I read about this a couple of weeks ago. If they do .01, I'll save money, if they do .02, I'm screwed.
How would you save money? This tax would be in addition to existing fuel taxes, not in lieu of them.
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Re: Tax by the mile...
[Re: John175☮]
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03/26/21 05:10 PM
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CCTX
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Re: Tax by the mile...
[Re: John175☮]
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03/26/21 05:26 PM
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Uncle Zeek
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LOL! "One area of potential agreement — at least on highway funding — is a vehicle-miles-traveled (VMT) system that would charge drivers a penny or two for each mile logged behind the wheel. The idea has been under consideration for years, and several states, including Oregon and Utah, are currently running pilots to test the technology and consumer acceptance. Supporters say it's a way to ensure that electric vehicle owners — who currently pay no fuel taxes — chip in their fair share for road maintenance. (29 states have imposed alternative annual fees on EVs in the meantime.) Buttigieg is open to a VMT. "We’re obviously going to have to come to more solutions if we’re going to preserve the user-paid principle," he told lawmakers Thursday." https://www.axios.com/tax-drivers-g...32788db-7dd3-4c1b-b884-ab5334ec5cae.htmlSo let me make sure I understand correctly. The yammerheads are proposing a new tax only for electric vehicles? I'm all for it. Let the greenies pay their share.
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Re: Tax by the mile...
[Re: John175☮]
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03/26/21 05:33 PM
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Lakhota
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EVs’ need to be be taxed for using the roads since they do not pay a fuel tax. The rest of the vehicles that do pay the fuel tax do not need another tax! Start using the fuel tax for what it is suppose to be used for “maintaining the roads” instead of for something else. This is always governments way of fixing a problem “let’s just add another tax”! We already pay fuel tax and a tax to register our vehicles that is suppose to maintain roads and bridges and look how they are.
Then we came up with Toll roads that are private roads but law enforcement is allowed to write traffic tickets on them and the companies that own them can keep you from registering your vehicles if you don’t pay the tolls. At least the toll roads are maintained.
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Re: Tax by the mile...
[Re: CCTX]
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03/26/21 05:34 PM
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Sawhorse
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If someone can post a chart, I’d like to see unicycles and tandem bike charges too.
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Re: Tax by the mile...
[Re: John175☮]
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03/26/21 05:35 PM
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Gusick
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No Zeek, they are proposing replacing fuel taxes with a mileage tax.
Fuel tax revenue has dropped in recent years as vehicles have become more efficient, or even gas-free. However, the cost of maintaining roads has not gone down, so something needs to change. Either this or hike fuel taxes.
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Re: Tax by the mile...
[Re: John175☮]
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03/26/21 05:40 PM
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a777pilot
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I hope that someday these greenies will be smart enough to understand that the more EVs on the road the more carbon is used and expelled into our air.
EV's use more carbon based fuels than just using a gas powered vehicle.
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Re: Tax by the mile...
[Re: John175☮]
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03/26/21 05:42 PM
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Re: Tax by the mile...
[Re: a777pilot]
#13937548
03/26/21 05:44 PM
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fishslime
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I hope that someday these greenies will be smart enough to understand that the more EVs on the road the more carbon is used and expelled into our air.
EV's use more carbon based fuels than just using a gas powered vehicle. I would like to see the data on that.
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Re: Tax by the mile...
[Re: John175☮]
#13937552
03/26/21 05:48 PM
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hopalong
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you do realize that if they go to a mileage tax that you will have to have a black box installed or it will come with the vehicle when you buy it.
semis have had them for a long time now, unless you are a perfect driver you really don't want black boxes watching over you. they can be used for more than just taxes. trucks have been paying mileage tax on top of other taxes including fuel tax on diesel, black boxes that link to the co. keep constant watch over what the vehicle is doing.
be careful of the foot in the door.
attach a .02c a mile tax on evs and leave us alone, use current funds for what they were collected to do and we don't need another tax.
people on fixed incomes will be screwed the worst if they have to drive much, drs. hospitals and such.
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Re: Tax by the mile...
[Re: LoneStarSon]
#13937563
03/26/21 05:58 PM
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John175☮
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I did the math when I read about this a couple of weeks ago. If they do .01, I'll save money, if they do .02, I'm screwed.
Uhhh....if your margins are that close then any increase in the price of gas would collapse you.
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Re: Tax by the mile...
[Re: John175☮]
#13937632
03/26/21 06:43 PM
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ReelBusy
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It's time for flying cars.
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