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Portable generator question #13888986 02/15/21 09:42 PM
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On the instructions, it recommends grounding the generator by driving a copper rod into the ground then running 10gauge copper wire from the generator to the copper stake in the ground

I have never seen anybody do this

Is this necessary?


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Never seen anybody do this either. Kind of defeats the purpose of being “portable”


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Re: Portable generator question [Re: CCTX] #13888995 02/15/21 09:47 PM
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When we install them into tour buses, we always ground them. But, they don’t have to come out often.


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It's a safety thing, but not required to operate. If I were setting it up to run my house, I'd probably ground it to the same ground rod that the house uses.


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Yes, there’s a copper stake by the meter.


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Originally Posted by Texan Til I Die
It's a safety thing, but not required to operate. If I were setting it up to run my house, I'd probably ground it to the same ground rod that the house uses.



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I think too that if you don't then any gfci plugs would no longer be gfci and may not even work due to no ground to fault to but not sure on that one.
if you are hooking it up close to the meter look for a heavy bare copper wire, you can twist around it 5-6 times tightly and that should suffice.

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Per OSHA:

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Grounding Requirements for Portable and Vehicle-mounted Generators

Under the following conditions, OSHA directs (29 CFR 1926.404(f)(3)(i)) that the frame of a portable generator need not be grounded (connected to earth) and that the frame may serve as the ground (in place of the earth):

The generator supplies only equipment mounted on the generator and/or cordand plug-connected equipment through receptacles mounted on the generator, § 1926.404(f)(3)(i)(A), and
The noncurrent-carrying metal parts of equipment (such as the fuel tank, the internal combustion engine, and the generator’s housing) are bonded to the generator frame, and the equipment grounding conductor terminals (of the power receptacles that are a part of [mounted on] the generator) are bonded to the generator frame, § 1926.404(f)(3)(i)(B).

Thus, rather than connect to a grounding electrode system, such as a driven ground rod, the generator’s frame replaces the grounding electrode.

If these conditions do not exist, then a grounding electrode, such as a ground rod, is required.

If the portable generator is providing electric power to a structure by connection via a transfer switch to a structure (home, office, shop, trailer, or similar) it must be connected to a grounding electrode system, such as a driven ground rod. The transfer switch must be approved for the use and installed in accordance with the manufacturer’s installation instructions by a qualified electrician.

Grounding requirements for generators connected via transfer switches are covered by Article 250 of the National Electrical Code (NEC).


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Re: Portable generator question [Re: CCTX] #13889233 02/16/21 01:30 AM
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Not sure why you would need that if you are using extension cords, if connected to the house panel then absolutely.

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Went to HD got a 4ft copper pipe for $5 and 25ft of 10 gauge copper wire (used 7ft of it) $10 with ring clamp $.89 and electrical tape then gorilla tape.

Hammered copper pipe 1ft into ground.


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Another input on portable generators. In thinking about how I wanted to bring the power into the house from the portable generator, I installed a thru-the-wall device that has a jack on the outside of the house to plug the generator into, and then there are outlets inside the house to plug things into. One like this:

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Here's an easy inexpensive way to connect to your house

http://www.generlink.com/generlink.html

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Just go old school and run the ext cord into house and plug it in. Obviously put a male end on it. Country folk call that a suicide snake. Done it for years.


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The way I hook up my generator, developed over several hurricanes and one winter storm (and a few thunderstorms) is using a very heavy extension cord (50 amp) run to the main breaker box and hooked to a 50 amp double pole breaker. The other end of the heavy cord plugs into the 50amp 220 plug on the generator. I plug this breaker in and shut off the main to prevent feedback out to the main line so as to keep linemen safe. This feeds both 110V busses. I shut off any circuits that draw too much or I plan on not using. I have never used and kind of ground other than the grounding buss in the breaker box.


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Originally Posted by RayBob
The way I hook up my generator, developed over several hurricanes and one winter storm (and a few thunderstorms) is using a very heavy extension cord (50 amp) run to the main breaker box and hooked to a 50 amp double pole breaker. The other end of the heavy cord plugs into the 50amp 220 plug on the generator. I plug this breaker in and shut off the main to prevent feedback out to the main line so as to keep linemen safe. This feeds both 110V busses. I shut off any circuits that draw too much or I plan on not using. I have never used and kind of ground other than the grounding buss in the breaker box.



That is pretty slick!. I have a 50A 220 Receptacle above my workbench that I never use. I could connect the generator there and do exactly as you suggest with the main breaker. Now, all I need is a generator. Bet they are more scarce now than a box of 9mm rounds


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Originally Posted by CCTX
On the instructions,


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