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Re: Insurance is a joke
[Re: barndoor]
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01/13/21 05:42 AM
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the skipper
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Let’s say you own a burger restaurant. You serve a couple hundred paying customers a day and make a nice living. But then one day a law was passed that you had to give a free burger and fries to every homeless person that walked in the door.
How would you feel?
Now let’s say you own a Mercedes dealership. You now have to give a $80,000 car to every homeless person that walks in.
How does that one feel? How would you keep your head above water? That is a bad analogy. A doctor provides a service not sell a product. That's a bad argument.
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Re: Insurance is a joke
[Re: Shallow Waters]
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01/13/21 05:52 AM
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Duck_Hunter
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I am not trying to stand up for insurance companies here, but you do know that the doctors office is billing them $5400 for the same procedure that they would bill you directly $400. Personally, I think insurance is a joke as well, but not everything they get blamed for is their fault. The insurance industry lobbied for this system. Government only creates winners and losers with everything it does. It isn’t complicated.
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Re: Insurance is a joke
[Re: RATZ]
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01/13/21 05:53 AM
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Duck_Hunter
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Prayers up for your daughter, Ratz.
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Re: Insurance is a joke
[Re: RATZ]
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01/13/21 05:58 AM
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mudd
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I ordered flowers and got fishing baits for some weird reason. Hopefully the mri being cheap doesn’t show up as an X-ray
93 Ranger 482vs 95 Bullet 20cc
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Re: Insurance is a joke
[Re: Bentman63]
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01/13/21 02:11 PM
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Fishin' Nut
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when I had my MRI I got headphones and they played Judas Priest for me. Mine was worse. I asked for a talk radio station. It was NPR reciting President Obama's greatest accomplishments.
He is truly a sick individual.
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Re: Insurance is a joke
[Re: RATZ]
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01/13/21 02:15 PM
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Pinkus
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Same here, it is always cheaper to pay cash if you haven’t met your deductible.. I dropped my health insurance this year, it got to be higher than my mortgage and was paying cash for [censored] anyway since they try to rape you to meet the deductible
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Re: Insurance is a joke
[Re: RATZ]
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01/13/21 04:35 PM
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Oldrabbit
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Prayers for your daughter RATZ. Hopefully there is nothing major to be found, but hope they can find the source of her headaches.
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Re: Insurance is a joke
[Re: barndoor]
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01/13/21 04:53 PM
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COFF
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Let’s say you own a burger restaurant. You serve a couple hundred paying customers a day and make a nice living. But then one day a law was passed that you had to give a free burger and fries to every homeless person that walked in the door.
How would you feel?
Now let’s say you own a Mercedes dealership. You now have to give a $80,000 car to every homeless person that walks in.
How does that one feel? How would you keep your head above water? That is a bad analogy. A doctor provides a service not sell a product. It's actually the hospital we are talking about here, not the doctor. They invest in a multimillion dollar machine that helps diagnose illness. Then they pay high salaries to doctors and nurses for their expertise and training. In order to recoup these investments, they charge the patients that use them. But something like 25-30% of the patients they treat are indigents that pay nothing. Look, I'm not saying its fair. But the reality is you cannot half regulate. You can't have a for profit system and not allow the market to regulate itself. A fully capitalistic medical system would provide the absolute best medical care. But it would require some people to not have access to it. A state funded medical system would provide full medical care to all, but because you are taking the incentive for profit out of the equation the quality of care diminishes. Sure the UK has universal healthcare to all. But their level of healthcare is basically go to a clinic and get a prescription for an antibiotic and an aspirin. Getting an MRI to diagnose an underlying problem is a 6-month process. People in England with the means to do so come here for medical treatment, as do Canada.
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Re: Insurance is a joke
[Re: RATZ]
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01/13/21 05:13 PM
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GeoFisher
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Rewind 5 years ago. Take my daughter into Tx Childrens for Scoliosis follow up. Waiting room filled with 50-60 people. They are behind an hour or so we wait, wait, wait. Never once did I see one single person go to "cashier" window before being called in. Our name is called and before I can even get to the door, I am cut off by someone that says I need to report to the cashier before services can be rendered. I go to cashier and boom......$350. I paid it of course. I never saw one other party PAY anything. I am a teacher. I have OK insurance. I want whatever plan those other 58 people are on!!
Everything on your bass boat is broken......You just don't know it yet.
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Re: Insurance is a joke
[Re: RATZ]
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01/13/21 08:48 PM
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DCmac
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What else did you expect when the dumbocrats and insurance companies got together to provide an affordable medical coverage plan.
Fishing, a man knows a serenity of soul and peace of mind that he finds in doing nothing else, and it makes no difference whether or not he catches anything. The mind of a true fisherman is not on petty subjects.
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Re: Insurance is a joke
[Re: Oldrabbit]
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01/13/21 08:55 PM
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GarySHO
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Prayers for your daughter RATZ. Hopefully there is nothing major to be found, but hope they can find the source of her headaches. yes. Sometimes hormone imbalance will cause them also.
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