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 Re: Adding a Power Outlet in the Garage
[Re: Donpilot]
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01/05/21 03:44 PM
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cocodrie
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I used to keep a cheap nightstand lamp on top of my fridge in the garage that was always turned on. If the lamp was ever out it had to be one of two things: GFCI had tripped or bulb was out. 99% of the time the plug had tripped.
After a few consistent trips of the GFCI, I replaced the GFCI breaker with a newer one. It helped a little - I think. But I then moved out the older fridge and replaced with a new up to date energy efficient and larger unit. Since then I've never tripped the GFCI and my current set up I have the fridge plugged into an extension cord over to the GFCI plug. older reefers will trip a gfci when the compressor kicks in if there are other things pulling a load at the same time, lots of amps to kick start it. Gfi don't trip on high amperage, they trip on ANY difference in the amps of the 2 wires. You realize you're talking to the guy who invented the GFCI plug, right?
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Re: Adding a Power Outlet in the Garage
[Re: Donpilot]
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01/05/21 03:46 PM
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hopalong
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I used to keep a cheap nightstand lamp on top of my fridge in the garage that was always turned on. If the lamp was ever out it had to be one of two things: GFCI had tripped or bulb was out. 99% of the time the plug had tripped.
After a few consistent trips of the GFCI, I replaced the GFCI breaker with a newer one. It helped a little - I think. But I then moved out the older fridge and replaced with a new up to date energy efficient and larger unit. Since then I've never tripped the GFCI and my current set up I have the fridge plugged into an extension cord over to the GFCI plug. older reefers will trip a gfci when the compressor kicks in if there are other things pulling a load at the same time, lots of amps to kick start it. Gfi don't trip on high amperage, they trip on ANY difference in the amps of the 2 wires. 
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Re: Adding a Power Outlet in the Garage
[Re: cocodrie]
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01/05/21 06:58 PM
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Tsunami_1
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I used to keep a cheap nightstand lamp on top of my fridge in the garage that was always turned on. If the lamp was ever out it had to be one of two things: GFCI had tripped or bulb was out. 99% of the time the plug had tripped.
After a few consistent trips of the GFCI, I replaced the GFCI breaker with a newer one. It helped a little - I think. But I then moved out the older fridge and replaced with a new up to date energy efficient and larger unit. Since then I've never tripped the GFCI and my current set up I have the fridge plugged into an extension cord over to the GFCI plug. older reefers will trip a gfci when the compressor kicks in if there are other things pulling a load at the same time, lots of amps to kick start it. Gfi don't trip on high amperage, they trip on ANY difference in the amps of the 2 wires. You realize you're talking to the guy who invented the GFCI plug, right? Wasn't sure I believed this so I googled it... "GFCI stands for Ground Fault Circuit Interrupters and it was designed by Mr. Hopalong in 1961. Mr. Hopalong was a professor of electrical engineering at UC Berkeley and wrote The Effects of Electric Shock on Man, a treatise which explained the effects of varying amounts of electricity on humans. Mr. Hopalong apparently knew a thing or two about how much electricity it took to kill a person and developed a device designed to protect human lives. In contrast, circuit breakers were designed to protect equipment and buildings and operate completely differently."
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Re: Adding a Power Outlet in the Garage
[Re: PowerLizard]
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01/05/21 07:07 PM
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Well, if that's the same Mr. Hopalong on this forum, then he is the one who put floors and tile in my last house.
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Re: Adding a Power Outlet in the Garage
[Re: Longeye]
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01/05/21 07:08 PM
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hopalong
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Well, if that's the same Mr. Hopalong on this forum, then he is the one who put floors and tile in my last house. I am multi talented.  good to see ya back.
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Re: Adding a Power Outlet in the Garage
[Re: PowerLizard]
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01/05/21 07:12 PM
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hopalong
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older reefers will trip a gfci when the compressor kicks in if there are other things pulling a load at the same time, lots of amps to kick start it.
Gfi don't trip on high amperage, they trip on ANY difference in the amps of the 2 wires. You realize you're talking to the guy who invented the GFCI plug, right? Wasn't sure I believed this so I googled it... "GFCI stands for Ground Fault Circuit Interrupters and it was designed by Mr. Hopalong in 1961. Mr. Hopalong was a professor of electrical engineering at UC Berkeley and wrote The Effects of Electric Shock on Man, a treatise which explained the effects of varying amounts of electricity on humans. Mr. Hopalong apparently knew a thing or two about how much electricity it took to kill a person and developed a device designed to protect human lives. In contrast, circuit breakers were designed to protect equipment and buildings and operate completely differently." my theme song
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Re: Adding a Power Outlet in the Garage
[Re: hopalong]
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01/05/21 08:50 PM
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I used to keep a cheap nightstand lamp on top of my fridge in the garage that was always turned on. If the lamp was ever out it had to be one of two things: GFCI had tripped or bulb was out. 99% of the time the plug had tripped.
After a few consistent trips of the GFCI, I replaced the GFCI breaker with a newer one. It helped a little - I think. But I then moved out the older fridge and replaced with a new up to date energy efficient and larger unit. Since then I've never tripped the GFCI and my current set up I have the fridge plugged into an extension cord over to the GFCI plug. older reefers will trip a gfci when the compressor kicks in if there are other things pulling a load at the same time, lots of amps to kick start it. I figured that the older unit had more draw when the compressor kicked on. In a way, that's what I was getting at with my "new up to date energy efficient" comment. I don't want to say that I hate those plugs, but I at least hate the way the builders install them on new homes. Sometimes I swear you can have 10 plugs on one circuit. On my last house, if I lost power on my plug that was on the back patio, I had to walk around to the garage that was on the opposite side of the house, to push the button on one of the plugs inside the garage in order to reset the circuit.
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Re: Adding a Power Outlet in the Garage
[Re: PowerLizard]
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01/05/21 09:50 PM
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PowerLizard
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The refrigerator will be on the same wall as the GFCI garage outlet but not in front of it.
I think the garage GFCI is connected to the front porch outlet and back patio outlet. I may be thinking of the previous house.
There is a non-GFCI outlet on another wall in the garage and a non-GFCI outlet in the garage ceiling but both of those are too far away and I don't want to run a long orange extension cord.
Does anyone on the TFF have a license and want to do it? My electrician skills suck and I want it done right the first time.
Last edited by PowerLizard; 01/05/21 10:16 PM.
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Re: Adding a Power Outlet in the Garage
[Re: PowerLizard]
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01/05/21 10:21 PM
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Cast
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I love these ‘simple electrical’ threads. Advanced electrical theory is coming up soon.
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Re: Adding a Power Outlet in the Garage
[Re: hopalong]
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01/05/21 10:28 PM
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bucksnbass357
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you can get an old work box for 2 plugs, wire the new plug straight to the circuit wire then run wires to the gfci plug, fridge will be ahead of the gfci. ![[Linked Image]](https://mobileimages.lowes.com/product/converted/034481/034481100904.jpg) Good advice here
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Re: Adding a Power Outlet in the Garage
[Re: Cast]
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01/05/21 11:26 PM
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I love these ‘simple electrical’ threads. Advanced electrical theory is coming up soon. Make it quick, I’m falling asleep.
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Re: Adding a Power Outlet in the Garage
[Re: Cast]
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01/06/21 03:08 AM
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hopalong
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I love these ‘simple electrical’ threads. Advanced electrical theory is coming up soon. I mentioned watts at a gtg one time, people asked if he had died.
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Re: Adding a Power Outlet in the Garage
[Re: Nocona Brian]
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01/06/21 03:16 AM
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Pretty easy to swap a plug out, just flip the breaker, take the cover plate off, and remove and reinstall the wires as shown on the little paper diagram in the new plugs box. FPNI! 
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Re: Adding a Power Outlet in the Garage
[Re: hopalong]
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01/06/21 05:14 AM
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you can get an old work box for 2 plugs, wire the new plug straight to the circuit wire then run wires to the gfci plug, fridge will be ahead of the gfci. if you are somewhat handy, this is the best answer. and i might add, if you want the two outlets to have some separation, get 2 one gang retro boxes and install both outlets at each end of the same stud cavity.
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