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Re: Grass spraying
[Re: senko9S]
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12/21/20 06:53 PM
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Txduckhunter
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I will continue to point my finger at TPWD! There are more ways to control vegetation than eradication! They are supposed to be educated enough to know this small fact. They choose the easiest route, defying years and years of efforts to increase the quality of fisheries.I am praying the newest biologists there are smart enough to realize the destruction the last group of bafoons did to fisheries!!! Please Lord!! Still angry about cypress? Who isn't? But, I thought that Franklin Co were the ones who (bowed to landowners) killed all the grass... I've talked to some landowners there who say "man, I don't know what happened here. The water was soooo pretty years ago" - I just LOL. Btw, Fork can't be "recreated". TPW did their part and nature did its part - TPW just claims all the credit. They've tried this on several lakes, hasn't really worked again.
Last edited by Txduckhunter; 12/21/20 06:55 PM.
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Re: Grass spraying
[Re: Txduckhunter]
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12/21/20 10:12 PM
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361V
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Btw, Fork can't be "recreated". TPW did their part and nature did its part - TPW just claims all the credit. They've tried this on several lakes, hasn't really worked again.
I thought they were on that path with Purtis Creek, Aquila...but I keep being wrong🤔🤪
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Re: Grass spraying
[Re: El Lobo]
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12/22/20 12:51 AM
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ezbassin
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The effect of spraying a lake to get rid of weeds can be described as "The death of a lake" as far as fishing is concerned. Look no further than Coleto Creek just outside Victoria . Use to be one of the best power plant lakes in the state then came in the parks and wildlife and killed off the vegetation. Use to be able to catch quality fish on the lake most any day but now catching a keeper is an accomplishment . Grass and vegetation never came back , fry from spawn had nowhere to hide , End of Fishery !!!!! Yep those IDIOTS never learn.
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Re: Grass spraying
[Re: tailboard]
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12/22/20 01:25 AM
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senko9S
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Lots of ignorance here, smdh.... do you enjoy water at your home?
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Re: Grass spraying
[Re: 361V]
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12/22/20 02:30 AM
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Txduckhunter
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Btw, Fork can't be "recreated". TPW did their part and nature did its part - TPW just claims all the credit. They've tried this on several lakes, hasn't really worked again.
I thought they were on that path with Purtis Creek, Aquila...but I keep being wrong🤔🤪 Not to forget Roberts and Chambers... I'm curious as to how Nac will age.
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Re: Grass spraying
[Re: tailboard]
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12/22/20 02:32 AM
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CCTX
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I think what people are asking for is moderation. Keeping the pipes clear and preventing oxygen choking amounts of vegetation is understandable; but, grass/vegetation is an excellent water filter. Eradicating it harms the water supply and results in soil erosion.
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Re: Grass spraying
[Re: tailboard]
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12/22/20 04:47 AM
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Coolarrow
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They were spraying on Sam Rayburn today and I also seen them earlier in the week. Looks like they are targeting the Giant Salvania. They are using an air boat to get around in.
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Re: Grass spraying
[Re: Littledog]
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12/22/20 04:56 AM
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David Burton
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3. Restriction of introduction of invasive species such as grass carp. LD - Hydrilla is an invasive Species...
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Re: Grass spraying
[Re: CCTX]
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12/22/20 06:26 AM
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senko9S
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I think what people are asking for is moderation. Keeping the pipes clear and preventing oxygen choking amounts of vegetation is understandable; but, grass/vegetation is an excellent water filter. Eradicating it harms the water supply and results in soil erosion. Its obvious, water for us people. Good fishing is a bonus.
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Re: Grass spraying
[Re: tailboard]
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12/22/20 10:16 AM
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But automatically defending all actions taken by TPWD in the name of “water supply” is odd to me also. The whole purpose of TPWD is to manage outdoor recreation in the state of Texas.
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Re: Grass spraying
[Re: Littledog]
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12/22/20 12:38 PM
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buda13
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Please Mr. Sinko, tell us what TPWD has done for Texas Bass fishing. Let us see this long list of great things . . . .
Don't even think about listing "Share a Lunker". TPWDs way of justifying their own jobs via glossy photos of smiling anglers holding fish that TPWD had nothing to do with. Go talk to touring professionals that fish all the best lakes nationwide... they will tell you hands down TPWD is the best in the nation. Armchair quarterback it all you want. As last I checked TPWD did not put hydrilla on the invasive species list, that was done by the feds. I’ve seen hyacinth take over entire creeks making them look like dry land. Giant Salvinia choking out every pocket in a creek making it unfishable. They have to do something and unfortunately you can’t kill one plant without killing the others right next to it. I love fishing Hydrilla, my home lake is loaded with it right now... but I know as soon as it makes it’s way down to the section with homeowners and starts choking out their docks it will be gone. Hard for a managing authority to ignore the homeowners when they have the invasive species card to play. What card do the fishermen have to play against the invasive species? Better fishing? Happier fish? Fishermen loose that battle 100% of the time. Way back to the OP’s question... the fishing starts to decline right away after spraying from what I’ve seen. They don’t all leave right away but they don’t stay very long.
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Re: Grass spraying
[Re: Coolarrow]
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12/22/20 12:45 PM
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buda13
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They were spraying on Sam Rayburn today and I also seen them earlier in the week. Looks like they are targeting the Giant Salvania. They are using an air boat to get around in. Unfortunately that will kill any hay grass or hydrilla in the area also... same as they do on Toledo for the Salvinia.
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Re: Grass spraying
[Re: buda13]
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12/22/20 01:45 PM
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fishnfireman
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Go talk to touring professionals that fish all the best lakes nationwide... they will tell you hands down TPWD is the best in the nation. Armchair quarterback it all you want.
As last I checked TPWD did not put hydrilla on the invasive species list, that was done by the feds. I’ve seen hyacinth take over entire creeks making them look like dry land. Giant Salvinia choking out every pocket in a creek making it unfishable. They have to do something and unfortunately you can’t kill one plant without killing the others right next to it. I love fishing Hydrilla, my home lake is loaded with it right now... but I know as soon as it makes it’s way down to the section with homeowners and starts choking out their docks it will be gone. Hard for a managing authority to ignore the homeowners when they have the invasive species card to play. What card do the fishermen have to play against the invasive species? Better fishing? Happier fish? Fishermen loose that battle 100% of the time.
Way back to the OP’s question... the fishing starts to decline right away after spraying from what I’ve seen. They don’t all leave right away but they don’t stay very long.
[/quote] Growing up around the farming and cattle industry I believe its possible to manufacture a target herbicide to most any single species.. however that takes a lot of time and money , right now there is no one willing to do that because its wouldn't be profitable.. JMO.
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Re: Grass spraying
[Re: buda13]
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12/22/20 02:30 PM
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Jarrett Latta
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They were spraying on Sam Rayburn today and I also seen them earlier in the week. Looks like they are targeting the Giant Salvania. They are using an air boat to get around in. Unfortunately that will kill any hay grass or hydrilla in the area also... same as they do on Toledo for the Salvinia. They been doing it on Rayburn for 20+ years. Fishing is great and hydrilla is as good as it's been in a decade. Of course many of these areas are void of vegetation to start with except for the salvinia. Rayburn may not be the best example as it seems to only infest the upper reaches of the lake.
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Re: Grass spraying
[Re: tailboard]
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12/22/20 03:21 PM
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over the hill @PK
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cities with lakes get millions of $ from the people who fish their lakes and to kill off the vegitation killing the lake also kill a lot of income to the city and tax $ money to.I am sure that would be more $ than the people on the lakes would be paying .There has to be a way for the lake lot owners to stop the grass around there lake front with out killing the whole lake
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