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Re: Is the company you work for [Re: Space] #13809080 12/16/20 10:18 PM
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DC representatives can't agree on anything now. One side will take it the other won't. But half gone is better than nothing. Thinning the heard can't hurt can it?

Re: Is the company you work for [Re: Davedave] #13809553 12/17/20 04:55 AM
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I 100% guarantee the Federal Government will step in and mandate the vaccine . If they foresee only 60-70% of Americans are willing to take any of the vaccines by a certain timeframe , they are going to force it down our throats .
Herd immunity has to be "as many " as possible to have the highest effective rate . If 30-40% don't take a vaccine --- Herd immunity won't be effective .
I will take wagers on when this occurs . It's not if , it's when .

I will wager $17 on this. We have to have a cutoff date though. I don’t want you being a weasel three years from now telling me to wait.

$17 bucks. No weaseling.


$17 ??? might be a small bet , but I am certain I am right . The government is going to try and tie the closing down of small business's to COVID tests and deaths . In all likelyhood , they will use that to shove this down our throats . I would also say that our so called " experts " will drum up new COVID scenario's to tell us that we will need another year of closing business's unless everybody has been vaccinated .
We have at least 5 companies coming out with vaccines by summer 2021 --- all have been government funded . The squeaky wheel will get greased .

Re: Is the company you work for [Re: 1oldbassguy] #13809556 12/17/20 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 1oldbassguy
Originally Posted by Davedave
Originally Posted by 1oldbassguy
I 100% guarantee the Federal Government will step in and mandate the vaccine . If they foresee only 60-70% of Americans are willing to take any of the vaccines by a certain timeframe , they are going to force it down our throats .
Herd immunity has to be "as many " as possible to have the highest effective rate . If 30-40% don't take a vaccine --- Herd immunity won't be effective .
I will take wagers on when this occurs . It's not if , it's when .

I will wager $17 on this. We have to have a cutoff date though. I don’t want you being a weasel three years from now telling me to wait.

$17 bucks. No weaseling.


$17 ??? might be a small bet , but I am certain I am right . The government is going to try and tie the closing down of small business's to COVID tests and deaths . In all likelyhood , they will use that to shove this down our throats . I would also say that our so called " experts " will drum up new COVID scenario's to tell us that we will need another year of closing business's unless everybody has been vaccinated .
We have at least 5 companies coming out with vaccines by summer 2021 --- all have been government funded . The squeaky wheel will get greased .

I’ll make what DD was saying simple. I will bet you $100 that by July 4th, 2021 there is no federal law that all American citizens must take the COVID-19 vaccine.

Re: Is the company you work for [Re: Space] #13809768 12/17/20 02:14 PM
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All our shots are free at Walmart. Some kind of deal with BC insurance. Anyplace else have to pay some amount. None are required, but annual flu shot strongly encouraged.


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Re: Is the company you work for [Re: Davedave] #13809812 12/17/20 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Davedave
Originally Posted by 1oldbassguy
I 100% guarantee the Federal Government will step in and mandate the vaccine . If they foresee only 60-70% of Americans are willing to take any of the vaccines by a certain timeframe , they are going to force it down our throats .
Herd immunity has to be "as many " as possible to have the highest effective rate . If 30-40% don't take a vaccine --- Herd immunity won't be effective .
I will take wagers on when this occurs . It's not if , it's when .

I will wager $17 on this. We have to have a cutoff date though. I don’t want you being a weasel three years from now telling me to wait.

$17 bucks. No weaseling.

Dave is a high roller but I would go in for the extra $3 to make it an even $20.

Re: Is the company you work for [Re: hopalong] #13812243 12/19/20 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hopalong
don't think they can legally require anyone to get a particular medical procedure or shot. all one has to do is object to getting it, company can retaliate tho so catch 22 for the employee.



not sure but I have been down that road and it ended badly for me.


https://www.natlawreview.com/article/vaccine-coming-can-employers-require-employees-to-take-it



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-...WqGcSe6opAUIlPtt6ZnotbvKdOCS8bUbIVSZr4iw

Re: Is the company you work for [Re: Space] #13812673 12/19/20 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RickS.
I doubt they would. But if that day ever came , I'll quit on the spot. With my middle finger in the bosses face.


That would be a very dumb move.


Why, because he might fire me? Hence the quit on the spot.

Quitting without a job to go to is a bad move. It may be months before you find a new job, without unemployment as a back income could drain any or all of your back savings if you have any.

But taking a vaccine that was rushed into production under political pressure (bypassing standard precautions), for a virus whose statistics are being substantially padded under political pressure, is a good move? WOW! I don’t trust liars with my life or my health.

Re: Is the company you work for [Re: Space] #13812720 12/19/20 11:02 PM
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Ut tyler hospital does not test any employees to see if they are non-symptomatic covid spreaders and as of now are saying you are not required to take covid vaccine although the flu vaccine is mandatory? Does that make any sense?


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Re: Is the company you work for [Re: Space] #13812727 12/19/20 11:07 PM
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Jim Ford...I've read just about every report, etc. out there about how these vaccines were developed ,tested and finally given emergency approval. Nowhere have I seen any company say there were pressured politically, nor have I seen where a claim to have padded their statistics. And given that we have some of the best technology, the best scientists and researchers, I am not surprised we did this in record time. So my question to you is where did you find your information concerning political pressure and falsified statistics?

Re: Is the company you work for [Re: Space] #13812731 12/19/20 11:10 PM
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I worked for a major oil company about 8 yrs ago, and they required a tetanus shot. I got one at initial physical and others got one at 5 yr work anniversary. I know it is not the same but something similar.


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Re: Is the company you work for [Re: Space] #13812795 12/20/20 12:23 AM
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Question, If one chooses not to get a vaccine, should they then give up the right of having the Government pay all the medical costs associated? As I understand it, and I might be wrong, the Government is picking up the tab now, reimbursing your insurance company.

Re: Is the company you work for [Re: Space] #13812848 12/20/20 01:33 AM
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I heard them talking about this on a local radio talk show last week. There are lots of ways to make 'uncomfortable' for you if you don't take the vaccine.

The government can deny you hunting and fishing license, drivers license, any VA benefits or SS benefits. If you think about it we are all dependent on the government.

They may not come knock on your door but they already control us more than we want to admit. Just My 2cents


Sometimes what didn't work out for you, did in fact, work out for you.


Haters going to hate and believers are going to believe.

Every man has two lives,The second one starts when he realizes that he has only one.

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Re: Is the company you work for [Re: Space] #13812862 12/20/20 01:57 AM
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Techfisher, I have two physicians in my family (one of whom is actually tasked with tracking Covid deaths). I have a pair of eyes and a pair of ears. I have a brain. Read my other posts on the topic. And as far as “claims of political pressure”, I’m sure James Comey would tell you there was no political pressure to falsify “evidence” against the President, and to “clear” Clinton. The same corrupt politicians are using Covid as a political tool, and the same corrupt politicians created financial incentives to pad Covid stats. Why do you suppose the study on Covid deaths, published last month in the Johns Hopkins newsletter, disappeared so abruptly? Why do you suppose so many physicians are disgusted at the Covid propaganda being pushed at us? Wake up and look around you.

Re: Is the company you work for [Re: Space] #13812870 12/20/20 02:17 AM
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I work in the natural gas business. A vaccine is the least of my employer's concerns.

If employers made it mandatory, employee retention and would go down the drain initially and maybe permanently until they wised up.


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Everybody I know in the medical field that has been offered the vaccine has taken it or so they say.

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