I've lived in Wylie about 7 years now, but just recently noticed several cars and trucks parked on the southbound side of hwy. 78 at the bridge by the Import auto salvage place. I see them after a good rain. So I'm wondering if it's a fishing hole down there. I think that it must be Muddy Creek which I have fished numerous times further downstream...say from Pleasant Valley road south to Liberty Grove road and downstream to Ray Hubbard. But the creek looks narrowed and inhospitable to fishing from the road upstream at 78.

So are those guys fishing or fighting roosters under that bridge?

Guess I oughta meander down there and find out for myself.

anybody?

Maybe they are all out there fishing.

You know.....ya might just be on to something....


Fishing......let me mull that over a bit and get back to you later.

That is what has been referred to as "Hooper Hole". There is a lake back up in there and after a rain the channe cats were easy pickins below the spillway drain. I used to walk the tracks down to it when Wylie was still a small town, 25 years ago.

Yeah...I went down there yesterday evening for a while. I was the only one there...2 trucks pulled out as I was arriving. I followed a few trails to the creek that was within the highway right of way and railroad property. There were a few spots to toss a line. I was impressed with the water quality and quantity...but of course...JEESH...look at the rain we've had. I saw some fairly large fish swimming in the strong current. I saw some cats and quite a few gar of various size. when I tossed my cast net all I caught was some real pretty red horse minnows. But the current was too powerful for a cast-net hack like myself. I was really wanting to see what else the little creek had running up it. After I fished that area a bit (all I had was some blood bait and a handful of shad, which were not good in the strong water...kept falling off) I concluded that there must be another area for fishing considering the amount of vehicles I've seen there some days, Especially since the easy access spots were not chewed up with foot prints and covered in beer cans and worm boxes. So I hiked a trail going north from the tracks that takes you to a fence in the nearby woods. The fence had been cut to where it is easily stepped through next to a gate. There was also a somewhat crude, but workable step-stair device made out of lumber that would allow someone to just walk over I guess.

Now I'm very leery of trespassing to fish, but at one point as I stood there surveying the area at the fence a truck pulled up in the woods on the other side. They just turned around and slowly drove out the other way paying me no mind. That's when I reasoned the property is hopefully ok to fish on. At least on that side of the creek. There are several manufacturing places on the other side and up the hill. So I hopped the fence and took a short walk looking for fishing holes. The bank was steep at most places, with lot's of jungle to fight. But I didn't go too far...not knowing for sure of the status of the place. I could see the rather large dam of the lake (Muddy Creek Reservoir), which I had earlier drove out around just to scope it out. That's a nice little lake. I guess it has limited access?....if any at all?
But then again if it is a flood control lake...might be that accessing the spillway is ok. It was getting late...I was hot and felt like I had been in the Amazon all day. So I left without going farther. But man....I bet that spillway would be awesome after a big rain. My guess is that there are some nice fish up there at times. Pleasant surprise indeed. So do you have any knowledge regarding the legality of being on the property fishincontrol?

By the way...thanks for the reply, and welcome to the forum. Do you still live in Wylie?

Duckcreek Davy...I live in Sachse and work just down the road from there. I've wondered myself what they are catching down, if you want to go scout it out sometime drop me a line and let me know. I'm only 5 minutes from there and could meet you sometime in the evening. It just might be one of those little secret spots to take the kiddo fishing! As long as you don't end up in the hooscow!!

Hee-Hee...they can't catch me...I'm the Gingerbread Man!

But seriously... There are plenty of fish in Muddy Creek. Especially downstream closer to it's entrance to Hubbard. And is natures way they will swim upstream following a rise in water as far as they can physically go usually...then congregate at the point where they can go no farther as long as the water is flowing good. They will then start back downstream as the flow decreases. I would say that at least judging by the size of the cats and gar I saw yesterday there would be some good ol bigguns in there as well, cause they were pretty good sized themselves. Heck...if nothing else, I've had a ball catching gar in creeks and rivers in the past. Let's look further into it and the access issues and then I'd enjoy meeting you there for sure. Sooner than later while the water is flowing. Like in the next few days. I've got a probable catfishing trip wed. night and maybe thursday in Oklahoma this week is my only pretty sure won't be here days.

Dave,

I go by there all the time and never stop. I saw a guy walking from one vehicle to anothere last weds and he had a bag of fish. I couldn't tell you what species, and my wife wouldn't let me stop as we were on the way to church. I've never been down there before but a friend of mine said he went there once and caught a huge Hybrid? and a few Crappie.. But, it looks like one of those places that someone might leave ya there to rot. So I stay away if ya know what I mean.

Why Wylie... Lawd-declare...I thought you new every secret fishing hole in the county! Wait...is it in Dallas or Collin...or both?

You know it seems like I read that the lake was a flood conservation lake. I'm thinking that it is government owned...maybe leased to a cattleman or something. But I saw no cows on the side of the creek I was on. Pretty cool spot if it is legal. I have today to do as I please. I think I'll just saunter down there this morning and look further into the situation. I'll report later.

Well , I guess the word is out. I live near that also and take my kids and kids from the neighborhood there. This spring we caught crappie out of that spot. Pretty good place to teach kids to cast.

Well, I checked it out yesterday. Parked - crossed the fence - this time I headed down the sendero towards the dam just a short distance more. I then was at the basin where a single overflow pipe feeds into from the reservoir above. There was one fella there was all. I couldn't ask him about the place because he spoke no English...Imagine that! There was a huuuuuge amount of water flowing into it, and down the creek from it. The basin was pretty big and deep, from 50 years of washing out. It was like being at a miniature Lavon spillway or something. And it held some of the same players. I could tell right away that I was not equipped for what could take place there. Within minutes I saw several nice cats swimming in the rolls. Including a few tackle busters. The bank is mostly pretty steep...strong - heavy duty gear a must. There were lots of gar, including at least one who was in the whoah momma class of big.I didn't have good bait for the occasion. Just some DK's...and the pickings for shad or perch were slim where I tried. Only picked up a couple of 2 lb or so channels. But it got hot with little shade at the basin pretty quick, and I ran out of water then left.

Initial impression: A hidden jewel of a spot for catfish and probably cats and crappie the right time of year....IF...only if...you've had some wet spells and the reservoir is overflowing. And even then...really good only the first few days after a good rain.

Pretty cool place...a fella could catch a biggun there.
Now Kentucky...were you fishing the lake or the overflow or both?

Mugz..if the creek is still flowing good in a couple of days we oughta hook up and try it out. I'd recommend you do it right away though if possible. But I'll be gone tonight a few days after.

And I'm not gonna say much more about it. In fact...I don't know what yall are talking about. There ain't no fish in that creek.

What creek?

I'm free tomorrow or Friday...you know though they were giving a chance for a turd floater Friday night going into Saturday morning. I can go pretty much anytime. Drop me a line and let me know how to reach you and I'll send you my cell#.