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Re: Co-Angler Tournament Etiquette
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07/21/20 01:23 PM
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Re: Co-Angler Tournament Etiquette
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07/21/20 01:40 PM
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Re: Co-Angler Tournament Etiquette
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07/21/20 01:52 PM
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Jeff From Iowa
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Keep casts on your side of the boat The safest way for co-anglers to prevent from becoming too aggressive with their casts is to never cast in front of the driverās console, which is about the halfway point of the boat. Ask the pro which direction he will be casting and then ask him if he minds if you throw towards the front of the boat, especially if he is paralleling the bank. This will piss the boater off more than anything, if you cast behind the console while the boat is moving and get snagged the boater has to turn all the way around to get the snag. I tell my non boaters to cast only in front of the console period, never ever ever behind it if the boat is moving. More specifically I tell them if were going down a bank, (moving) then cast right behind me and work all that water back to the console and pick it up... A lot of boaters cause their own issues and grief by telling the co they cant cast in front of the console.
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Re: Co-Angler Tournament Etiquette
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07/21/20 02:04 PM
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Keep casts on your side of the boat The safest way for co-anglers to prevent from becoming too aggressive with their casts is to never cast in front of the driverās console, which is about the halfway point of the boat. Ask the pro which direction he will be casting and then ask him if he minds if you throw towards the front of the boat, especially if he is paralleling the bank. This will piss the boater off more than anything, if you cast behind the console while the boat is moving and get snagged the boater has to turn all the way around to get the snag. I tell my non boaters to cast only in front of the console period, never ever ever behind it if the boat is moving. More specifically I tell them if were going down a bank, (moving) then cast right behind me and work all that water back to the console and pick it up... A lot of boaters cause their own issues and grief by telling the co they cant cast in front of the console. This is true, you cast out the back and get hung up you are breaking it off or causing a lot of headache turning around all the time.
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Re: Co-Angler Tournament Etiquette
[Re: TinRangerJim]
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07/21/20 02:13 PM
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After fishing a couple of these over the years as a CO they should write an article on Pro etiquette. There are a lot of good nice guys, but about an equal amount of arseholes that purposely won't let the co have a chance to make a cast, or even land a fish if one is hooked. Since the Elites and BPT and FLW top tours don't allow COs any longer the so called "pros" in the opens are people that have regular jobs and don't rely on the tournaments to make a living, at least most of them don't. They act a Co is an invader in their boat and don't give them a chance. Yes the Co should follow a certain ediquette but so should the "pro".
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Re: Co-Angler Tournament Etiquette
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07/21/20 05:58 PM
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In two years as a BFL CO I had good boaters, only at a regional did I fully understand the term front-ended! However neither of the two that did it to me caught any fish, so it was okay.
One tip I have for a CO, is if fishing soft plastics and you get hung up, break it off and re-tie. Don't make your boater go in to get you loose. I scored a lot of points with my boaters doing this. And the time it took me to re-rig was usually less then getting it loose.
Oh and leave 90% of what you think you need at home, you won't use it!
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Re: Co-Angler Tournament Etiquette
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07/21/20 07:44 PM
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In two years as a BFL CO I had good boaters, only at a regional did I fully understand the term front-ended! However neither of the two that did it to me caught any fish, so it was okay.
One tip I have for a CO, is if fishing soft plastics and you get hung up, break it off and re-tie. Don't make your boater go in to get you loose. I scored a lot of points with my boaters doing this. And the time it took me to re-rig was usually less then getting it loose.
Oh and leave 90% of what you think you need at home, you won't use it! I don't agree with this, don't just assume this, have a talk with your boater before the days starts, every boater I've every drawn has told me not to break off right away, they don't mind going to get the bait as long as your not constantly getting snagged up all day. It also dependent at what level your fishing if it ABA's most boaters aren't going to be such hard @sses that you need to break off behind them but at the Opens or Toyota level they probably will expect you too, again COMMUNICATE with your boater.
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Re: Co-Angler Tournament Etiquette
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07/21/20 08:57 PM
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Jeff From Iowa
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In two years as a BFL CO I had good boaters, only at a regional did I fully understand the term front-ended! However neither of the two that did it to me caught any fish, so it was okay.
One tip I have for a CO, is if fishing soft plastics and you get hung up, break it off and re-tie. Don't make your boater go in to get you loose. I scored a lot of points with my boaters doing this. And the time it took me to re-rig was usually less then getting it loose.
Oh and leave 90% of what you think you need at home, you won't use it! I don't agree with this, don't just assume this, have a talk with your boater before the days starts, every boater I've every drawn has told me not to break off right away, they don't mind going to get the bait as long as your not constantly getting snagged up all day. It also dependent at what level your fishing if it ABA's most boaters aren't going to be such hard @sses that you need to break off behind them but at the Opens or Toyota level they probably will expect you too, again COMMUNICATE with your boater. agree, thats crazy to expect people to break off, if they dont cast behind the boat I can just swerve over and they can walk up front and pop it loose or usually ill pop it loose for them as it seems thats a learned skill....
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Re: Co-Angler Tournament Etiquette
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07/22/20 12:45 AM
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Does it cover do not crush my rod eyes or cracking rods by stepping on them when you come up front to net my big 2 pounder - sorry I thought it was bigger fish?
Nothing like having 4 or 5 rods taken out of commission for the day or until replaced. Granted stuff happens but some create more of it than others and it can get expensive real quick.
Even with that said, most co-anglers are really good guys and a pleasure to have in the boat.
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Re: Co-Angler Tournament Etiquette
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07/22/20 02:51 AM
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Glad Iāve never been you guys co! Sounds like a long day!
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Re: Co-Angler Tournament Etiquette
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07/22/20 03:30 AM
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I did the coangler for Bassmaster 4 years ago. Had 7 boaters over 3 tourneys. Only one was a dick. His name was actually Dick Wayne. Haha. Should have guessed between the Cadillac Escalade for a tow vehicle, the Rolex boat wrap and matching watch, on a Nitro!!! Lol. The dude was a tool and didnāt boat a fish the whole morning...he even asked where me and I boater caught them the day before. He told me I could pay him $20 for each fish I caught. I have him $80 at the end of the day and snidely commented that he didnāt āowe me a dime...since he zeroedā. Lol.
I have fished with a few of the Elite guys. They are very cool, professional, and humble. One offered me to use his hand made prototype whopper plopper that Ish made for him and hand painted. He said just change the hooks first. Then told me to keep it afterwards. He even said I could cast to the front, just donāt hit him in the head. Also had Lee teach me how to fizz a fish with one of his insulin needles he modified.
Most co/pro tourneys are great experiences. Even the guys that couldnāt fish to save their lives taught me some great ideas.
Iāve moved on with the co angler urge, but I learned that being a boater is a responsibility. When I have a co, I treat them as a friend and partner and try to insure that I fish spots that can be fished from the front and back of the boat. I also offer as much of my tackle as practical so that they can effectively fish what I have as a milk run.
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Re: Co-Angler Tournament Etiquette
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07/22/20 01:10 PM
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I have always been a boater, had prolly 2 Cos that we did not get along during all my years..... and they knew better then me what we were supposed to be doing, which booth of those days it might have been true. I know I have been the guy that was lost on the real pattern, and I know I have spun out on a few days, it happens to everyone.
In 2016 I did fish as a CO in the BFL due to circumstances that year. I really enjoyed it. No pressure, just show up and fish. I was lucky and draw people that were on fish. I was front ended on 1 of those, and only caught 1 fish. but I know he did what he needed to try and win, As I'm pretty sure he had the fish on to win. I learned alot, But most of all there is very little stress on being a co angler, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I have gotten to watch 3 of my Co angler's win, many more get checks, and I won an event as a Co angler in 2016. And I have won a few event as a Boater, although its been awhile.
Communication is the key, and goes along way in your fishing day. If your there to compete, well you will prolly be disappointed. If your there to learn and enjoy fishing you will have a great time as a Co.
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Re: Co-Angler Tournament Etiquette
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07/22/20 01:38 PM
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Iāve moved on with the co angler urge, but I learned that being a boater is a responsibility. When I have a co, I treat them as a friend and partner and try to insure that I fish spots that can be fished from the front and back of the boat. I also offer as much of my tackle as practical so that they can effectively fish what I have as a milk run. Steez is quite accommodating until he tries to bet ya $500 for a one on one match....then it's each guy for themselves, ha! I fished with Steez once and had a really good time. He hadn't taken me since.... I've fished one BASS event as a Co and learned a lot from that experience....that I never wanna do that again! I guess I'm a little too controlling, maybe....
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Re: Co-Angler Tournament Etiquette
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07/22/20 01:48 PM
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Iāve moved on with the co angler urge, but I learned that being a boater is a responsibility. When I have a co, I treat them as a friend and partner and try to insure that I fish spots that can be fished from the front and back of the boat. I also offer as much of my tackle as practical so that they can effectively fish what I have as a milk run. Steez is quite accommodating until he tries to bet ya $500 for a one on one match....then it's each guy for themselves, ha! I fished with Steez once and had a really good time. He hadn't taken me since.... I've fished one BASS event as a Co and learned a lot from that experience....that I never wanna do that again! I guess I'm a little too controlling, maybe.... That was an [censored] whoopin.
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