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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
[Re: RayBob]
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07/01/20 01:45 PM
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hopalong
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That's strong Hops !
In my opinion the economic health of the nation is the most important goal there is in this whole mess.
That's strong Hops !
In my opinion the economic health of the nation is the most important goal there is in this whole mess.
look at how all this has unfolded and realize that dems do not give one iota how bad they hurt the country as long as they think they will be in power. look at how the house has acted recently, shot down the policing bill from tim scott, insist that only they know what we need and Trump is an idiot to be ignored. the states with the worst problems from covid were/are the dem run dumps, ny, kalifornicate, mi, wi, nj, conn and others are doing all they can to keep things shut down, why? folks, the liberal/socialists are playing the population again with covid and then the floyd mess just amped up the delay in reopening due to riots and protests. like I have said, like him or not, Trump is the only choice if you want to keep living in the U.S. elect biden and we will be third world within 6 months.
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
[Re: donothin]
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07/01/20 01:46 PM
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Davedave
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I would guess that if the current spike continues, more people will stay home rather than go to bars, sporting events, restaurants, etc irrespective of a lockdown. It is the Covid-19 that is damaging the economy in the long run. Sure, some will continue to flaunt the flu and go to gatherings but not enough to support the businesses that are most vulnerable. Many, like me, consider the risk to reward ratio. Going out to have dinner is not worth the risk. I think it is remarkable that for many, there life is so boring that going to a bar or out to dinner is so important that they are willing to take the risk. The point is that people should be able to make their own decisions. Period. There are plenty of things people do that I think are stupid. But, that’s their life, and their decision. I’m sure you, or someone else, will say that our actions affect other people. That’s true of this, and true of a lot of things. Do what you think is right. Don’t shame people for having a different view. Don’t applaud government telling us how to live, and what to do. Chance are, their next decisions may not suit your liking. I won’t have much sympathy for you then.
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
[Re: donothin]
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07/01/20 01:50 PM
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Samsonsworld
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Many, like me, consider the risk to reward ratio. Going out to have dinner is not worth the risk. I think it is remarkable that for many, there life is so boring that going to a bar or out to dinner is so important that they are willing to take the risk. Many, like you, weigh the risk and decide it's worth it to get out of the house.
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
[Re: Samsonsworld]
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07/01/20 01:51 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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Many, like me, consider the risk to reward ratio. Going out to have dinner is not worth the risk. I think it is remarkable that for many, there life is so boring that going to a bar or out to dinner is so important that they are willing to take the risk. Many, like you, weigh the risk and decide it's worth it to get out of the house. he sit's at home praying for a recession.
FJB
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
[Re: Ted Dyer]
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07/01/20 01:54 PM
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206champion
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
[Re: Davedave]
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07/01/20 01:56 PM
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donothin
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I would guess that if the current spike continues, more people will stay home rather than go to bars, sporting events, restaurants, etc irrespective of a lockdown. It is the Covid-19 that is damaging the economy in the long run. Sure, some will continue to flaunt the flu and go to gatherings but not enough to support the businesses that are most vulnerable. Many, like me, consider the risk to reward ratio. Going out to have dinner is not worth the risk. I think it is remarkable that for many, there life is so boring that going to a bar or out to dinner is so important that they are willing to take the risk. The point is that people should be able to make their own decisions. Period. There are plenty of things people do that I think are stupid. But, that’s their life, and their decision. I’m sure you, or someone else, will say that our actions affect other people. That’s true of this, and true of a lot of things. Do what you think is right. Don’t shame people for having a different view. Don’t applaud government telling us how to live, and what to do. Chance are, their next decisions may not suit your liking. I won’t have much sympathy for you then. My point was that if it continues enough will not go by their own choice that bars and restaurants will not have enough customer base to survive. I do think the government has the responsibility to keep the public informed with the best information of the day rather than deny the problem. And Davedave, no sympathy from you does not matter to me one iota.
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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07/01/20 01:57 PM
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John175☮
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Many, like me, consider the risk to reward ratio. Going out to have dinner is not worth the risk. I think it is remarkable that for many, there life is so boring that going to a bar or out to dinner is so important that they are willing to take the risk. Many, like you, weigh the risk and decide it's worth it to get out of the house. he sit's at home praying for a recession. He's retired. What does he care? Most of the ones in favor of the shutdown have no fat in the fire...they're retired.
“Do not pray for easier lives. Pray to be stronger men.” -JFK
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
[Re: Ted Dyer]
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07/01/20 01:58 PM
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206champion
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You can’t keep people locked down how in the heck do you expect them to provide for their families I don’t get that. Don’t tell me about the stimulus either it was 2400.00$ . To the op I ask you how do expect people to pay their bills. And buy the way I haven’t missed a day of work sinse this thing started.
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
[Re: John175☮]
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07/01/20 01:59 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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Many, like me, consider the risk to reward ratio. Going out to have dinner is not worth the risk. I think it is remarkable that for many, there life is so boring that going to a bar or out to dinner is so important that they are willing to take the risk. Many, like you, weigh the risk and decide it's worth it to get out of the house. he sit's at home praying for a recession. He's retired. What does he care? Most of the ones in favor of the shutdown have no fat in the fire...they're retired. yes sir.
FJB
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
[Re: ReelBusy]
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07/01/20 02:00 PM
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206champion
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I'm just thankful the riots and protests didn't spread it, whew we got lucky there Lol me to
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
[Re: hopalong]
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07/01/20 02:01 PM
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barndoor
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the states with the worst problems from covid were/are the dem run dumps, ny, kalifornicate, mi, wi, nj, conn and others are doing all they can to keep things shut down, why?
You excluded Arizona, Texas, and Florida because they are ran by republicans.
Last edited by barndoor; 07/01/20 02:03 PM.
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
[Re: John175☮]
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07/01/20 02:04 PM
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HasBen
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Many, like me, consider the risk to reward ratio. Going out to have dinner is not worth the risk. I think it is remarkable that for many, there life is so boring that going to a bar or out to dinner is so important that they are willing to take the risk. Many, like you, weigh the risk and decide it's worth it to get out of the house. he sit's at home praying for a recession. He's retired. What does he care? Most of the ones in favor of the shutdown have no fat in the fire...they're retired. He lost all credibility on here when he wished for a recession in the US so it would take Trump down. When you wish destruction to your country because you don’t like the current President, you have crossed a line, in my opinion.
“There’s no such thing as too much horsepower, just not enough traction”…..Carroll Shelby
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
[Re: HasBen]
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07/01/20 02:08 PM
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RayBob
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He lost all credibility on here when he wished for a recession in the US so it would take Trump down. When you wish destruction to your country because you don’t like the current President, you have crossed a line, in my opinion.
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Advice? Wise men don't need it. Fools won't heed it.
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
[Re: RayBob]
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07/01/20 02:10 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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He lost all credibility on here when he wished for a recession in the US so it would take Trump down. When you wish destruction to your country because you don’t like the current President, you have crossed a line, in my opinion.
^^^^^ ^^^^^ that is the ugly face of liberalism at it's finest.
FJB
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Re: So at this point are we all willing to admit that
[Re: Tallgrass05]
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07/01/20 02:11 PM
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Frenzy
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The USA has 4% of the world's population but 25% of the COVID-19 deaths. There's a reason for that. But it's like presenting facts to Flat-Earthers, creationists, and Holocaust deniers. A deeply held belief will not be swayed by facts, data, or any amount of evidence. New York has 6% of the US population but 25% of the US COVID-19 deaths. There's a reason for that too.......his name is Fredo Sr.
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