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Re: Rayshard Brooks [Re: RO519] #13595765 06/15/20 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RO519
Originally Posted by Twotoes
The guy was acting reasonably normally in the video. I guess he was drunk or drugged or both, but he seemed calm. Then, when being handcuffed, he just went ballistic crazy fighting and grabbing anything in reach. Then he got up and started running.

My question is - where did he think he was going? There was no chance of escape. The cops knew who he was. His car was still sitting there.

I just don't understand such insanely unreasonable actions.


Insanely unreasonable actions? You can't be serious. He has just scuffled with and manhandled two police officers, stole a taser from them, pointed it at them and attempted to shoot them. If that is "insanely unreasonably actions" then what action is reasonable for a police officer to draw his weapon and use it?


unless I'm wrong, I believe you misunderstand him. he's saying the perp's actions are unreasonable.


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RO519 - Huh? It was insanely unreasonable for the guy to think he could get away. Hard to understand?


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Re: Rayshard Brooks [Re: Twotoes] #13595776 06/15/20 08:27 PM
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RO519 - Huh? It was insanely unreasonable for the guy to think he could get away. Hard to understand?


I misread your post. I thought you were saying the police officers actions were insanely unreasonable.


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Re: Rayshard Brooks [Re: Chug-bug-bang1] #13595828 06/15/20 08:57 PM
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Houston Chronicle had an article this morning of an attorney saying the police should have let him sleep it off, or call uber and got him a ride or taken them home themselves so it would not have escalated. He also mentioned that does not excuse the perpetrator's actions.

What are our officers suppose to do now, be baby sitters or law enforcement officers. I can't believe the thought process of some people.

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What are our officers suppose to do now, be baby sitters or law enforcement officers..


Yes. This, along with take the extra time during an altercation to determine exactly how this will be portrayed in the media, and/or if the offender's feelings will be hurt or some group of peoples will be able to misconstrue everything that's taking place to further their own agenda.

Oh...and give them a trophy.

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What are our officers suppose to do now, be baby sitters or law enforcement officers..


Yes. This, along with take the extra time during an altercation to determine exactly how this will be portrayed in the media, and/or if the offender's feelings will be hurt or some group of peoples will be able to misconstrue everything that's taking place to further their own agenda.

Oh...and give them a trophy.


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Re: Rayshard Brooks [Re: teamplayer] #13595851 06/15/20 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by teamplayer
Houston Chronicle had an article this morning of an attorney saying the police should have let him sleep it off, or call uber and got him a ride or taken them home themselves so it would not have escalated. He also mentioned that does not excuse the perpetrator's actions.

What are our officers suppose to do now, be baby sitters or law enforcement officers. I can't believe the thought process of some people.


They have that discretion. We won't know what they would have done if Brooks had of been more honest, have known where he was at or not have been as argumentative as he was. I believe there are plenty of cops around that would have called someone to take him home if he lived close by, was truthful that he was just caught and showed responsibility for his public drunkenness.
The guy did not know where he was, tried to explain his way out of it and I never heard him express that he was wrong.

I'm not taking sides as I feel there is good reason to believe the officer may have done wrong too but Brooks had the attitude that I see so often. Say whatever it takes to get you off. I believe those kind of people do not feel sorry for their actions.

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You know Im not surprised after reading about the UCLA professor getting suspended for not giving afican american students a free pass on the exam lol its crazy what this world is coming too.

It's an aside to the subject of this thread, but that isn't really what happened.

He was suspended because wrote a snarky, inflammatory response that wasn't really necessary. He could have just said, "No, I can't do that.", or he could have simply ignored the request, and nothing would have come of it.

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Originally Posted by teamplayer
Houston Chronicle had an article this morning of an attorney saying the police should have let him sleep it off, or call uber and got him a ride or taken them home themselves so it would not have escalated. He also mentioned that does not excuse the perpetrator's actions.

What are our officers suppose to do now, be baby sitters or law enforcement officers. I can't believe the thought process of some people.


I saw this line of thought expressed a myriad of times in the comment sections of various news organizations.

Drunk driving laws exist to minimize the act of endangering the lives of others while driving drunk. If the penalty for drinking and driving becomes a free ride home from the police, what deterrent exists? None.

I can't believe I even had to type out those words.

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Re: Rayshard Brooks [Re: Chug-bug-bang1] #13596005 06/15/20 10:53 PM
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If I have a taser and you have a gun and I tase you I might have your gun.

Also let’s just let all those who are DWI walk home.

I wonder what the DWI law is in Georgia when on private property which Wendy’s is?

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Wendy's called 911 - LEOs were asking the driver to move the car. Legally.





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Re: Rayshard Brooks [Re: Allison1] #13596455 06/16/20 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Allison1
Originally Posted by teamplayer
Houston Chronicle had an article this morning of an attorney saying the police should have let him sleep it off, or call uber and got him a ride or taken them home themselves so it would not have escalated. He also mentioned that does not excuse the perpetrator's actions.

What are our officers suppose to do now, be baby sitters or law enforcement officers. I can't believe the thought process of some people.


They have that discretion. We won't know what they would have done if Brooks had of been more honest, have known where he was at or not have been as argumentative as he was. I believe there are plenty of cops around that would have called someone to take him home if he lived close by, was truthful that he was just caught and showed responsibility for his public drunkenness.
The guy did not know where he was, tried to explain his way out of it and I never heard him express that he was wrong.

I'm not taking sides as I feel there is good reason to believe the officer may have done wrong too but Brooks had the attitude that I see so often. Say whatever it takes to get you off. I believe those kind of people do not feel sorry for their actions.


Where is the hell are cops that dont arrest DWI drivers, they lock them up left and right around here and here is why, sure they can drive them home, not that they are taxi drivers but for arguments sake sure. Now they drive the guy home tuck him in then he gets up and grabs keys to another car, gets an uber ride back to his, whatever. Then cause he is still drunk kills some guy on the way to work or drives his car into someone's house, runs over some kid, etc etc and it come out that the guy was escorted home by police and not detained. The public would go nuts, that's the stupidest idea I have heard in a while. The police arent a babysitting service or uber. Maybe they take him home and while drunk kills his wife, beats his kid half to death, goes down the street and robs a store. Once they have the interaction until he sobers up they pretty much own any screwing up he does. Would you take that responsibility by tucking him in and driving away.....

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Originally Posted by WAWI
Originally Posted by Allison1
Originally Posted by teamplayer
Houston Chronicle had an article this morning of an attorney saying the police should have let him sleep it off, or call uber and got him a ride or taken them home themselves so it would not have escalated. He also mentioned that does not excuse the perpetrator's actions.

What are our officers suppose to do now, be baby sitters or law enforcement officers. I can't believe the thought process of some people.


They have that discretion. We won't know what they would have done if Brooks had of been more honest, have known where he was at or not have been as argumentative as he was. I believe there are plenty of cops around that would have called someone to take him home if he lived close by, was truthful that he was just caught and showed responsibility for his public drunkenness.
The guy did not know where he was, tried to explain his way out of it and I never heard him express that he was wrong.

I'm not taking sides as I feel there is good reason to believe the officer may have done wrong too but Brooks had the attitude that I see so often. Say whatever it takes to get you off. I believe those kind of people do not feel sorry for their actions.


Where is the hell are cops that dont arrest DWI drivers, they lock them up left and right around here and here is why, sure they can drive them home, not that they are taxi drivers but for arguments sake sure. Now they drive the guy home tuck him in then he gets up and grabs keys to another car, gets an uber ride back to his, whatever. Then cause he is still drunk kills some guy on the way to work or drives his car into someone's house, runs over some kid, etc etc and it come out that the guy was escorted home by police and not detained. The public would go nuts, that's the stupidest idea I have heard in a while. The police arent a babysitting service or uber. Maybe they take him home and while drunk kills his wife, beats his kid half to death, goes down the street and robs a store. Once they have the interaction until he sobers up they pretty much own any screwing up he does. Would you take that responsibility by tucking him in and driving away.....

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I’ve lost my grandmother and uncle to drunk drivers. I have zero sympathy for any of them. I want full enforcement of the law

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