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Re: Whats the most important deep diving crank factor?
[Re: Resh]
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05/19/20 10:44 PM
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LeonSulak
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How deep do you all get a 5xd,6xd,8xd, and 10xd?
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Re: Whats the most important deep diving crank factor?
[Re: Resh]
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05/19/20 11:23 PM
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Re: Whats the most important deep diving crank factor?
[Re: Resh]
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05/20/20 12:37 AM
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ezbassin
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Biggest factors for throwing a deep crank bait.....Correct rod, reel, and line you use. Simple as that.
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Re: Whats the most important deep diving crank factor?
[Re: LeonSulak]
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05/20/20 01:03 AM
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JIM SR.
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How deep do you all get a 5xd,6xd,8xd, and 10xd? When I bass fished I could get them as deep as I wanted to,...a guide once showed me how to T-rig a crankbait....it works.
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Re: Whats the most important deep diving crank factor?
[Re: Resh]
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05/20/20 01:43 AM
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Resh
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Thanks all, I guess I’ll figure out how to tune a crankbait, never done that in my life. I open it up, tie it on and zing it.
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Re: Whats the most important deep diving crank factor?
[Re: Resh]
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05/20/20 01:53 AM
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Ken A.
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You can get a 6XD down way past 20' Strolling if you use 10# fluorocarbon and let out 100-150 yards of line. The fluorocarbon pulls the bait down deeper. Keith Combs showed everyone that when he won the TTBC on Fork with 110# for 15 fish in three days. He said he could get an 8XD down to 45 feet on Fluoro strollin.
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Re: Whats the most important deep diving crank factor?
[Re: Resh]
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05/20/20 09:33 PM
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Big C
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I think the majority of it has already been addressed, but I'll chime in my two cents on tuning the crank bait. To me, IMO, that is the most important factor in ANY crank bait, not just deep cranking. To add some info. While it helps, it's not a given that if you spend more money on the crank bait, it will run true. I've had some Megabass cranks that didn't and some cheapo Academy brands that did, so it is another "it depends" thing. On the tuning part, here is one video by Tactical Bassin' that addresses tuning. There are tons more out there.............. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMsCtJA6YYs
BIG C
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Re: Whats the most important deep diving crank factor?
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05/20/20 09:37 PM
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Big C
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I don't think I can hit bottom at 12ft with a 6xd. I know my rod and reel are too cheap and not set up correctly. But before upgrading which is the most important factor to achieving good depth? A good rod or a good reel? I think my line is ok?
BPS Tourney Special 5:6:1 TFO Professional 7' MH I use either 10 or 12lb flouro seaguar red label or pline A long rod will always increase casting distance on any lure. I like to use a rod between 7.5'-8' long for deep diving crankbaits since accurate casts which are much easier achieved with shorter rods are usually not needed when throwing a deep diving crankbait. Aside from using thin diameter and dense line like the 10-12lb fluorocarbon you are using I recommend using a baitcasting reel which has a wider spool for longer length casts. Also casting with the wind at your back will help increase your casting distance in addition to turning off as many of the centrifugal brakes on your reel as possible without backlashing too often so that it does not slow the line leaving your spool nearly as much during your casts. With loosened centrifugal brakes you will backlash much less often by simply letting the rod do the work rather than casting as hard as possible which will more often result in a backlash. In addition it is very important to make sure to have your crankbait properly tuned to be running as straight as possible on a quick retrieve to help achieve the maximum diving depth from them and keep your rod tip down towards the water, especially at the beginning of your retrieve. After catching a fish or two you may have to adjust your line tie to ensure your deep crankbaits are running in a straight line. I hope this helps, good luck! You're a guide and do this much more than the majority of us, so are you a believer in the Paul Elias "kneel and reel" technique, or no. Why or why not, if I may, sir??? Also, where you're talking about "After catching a fish or two you may have to adjust your line tie to ensure your deep crankbaits are running in a straight line.", can you expound a bit on that?
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Re: Whats the most important deep diving crank factor?
[Re: Ken A.]
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05/20/20 09:50 PM
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SAKS
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You can get a 6XD down way past 20' Strolling if you use 10# fluorocarbon and let out 100-150 yards of line. The fluorocarbon pulls the bait down deeper. Keith Combs showed everyone that when he won the TTBC on Fork with 110# for 15 fish in three days. He said he could get an 8XD down to 45 feet on Fluoro strollin. Fished with him in that same area and he definitely is a machine when it comes to deep cranking and uses high speed reels also. James Niggemeyer told me Keith is so good because he is willing to do what others are not. For someone who never really deep cranked before long lining was a brutal attack on every muscle I had and didn’t know I had. But it was fun once we got out of the sandies. To the OP look into the Profound Outdoors deep crank baits. They will still wear you down over time but I did notice they are easier to pull through the water than say a 6XD and was able to reach target depths.
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Re: Whats the most important deep diving crank factor?
[Re: Big C]
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05/20/20 10:58 PM
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Resh
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I think the majority of it has already been addressed, but I'll chime in my two cents on tuning the crank bait. To me, IMO, that is the most important factor in ANY crank bait, not just deep cranking. To add some info. While it helps, it's not a given that if you spend more money on the crank bait, it will run true. I've had some Megabass cranks that didn't and some cheapo Academy brands that did, so it is another "it depends" thing. On the tuning part, here is one video by Tactical Bassin' that addresses tuning. There are tons more out there.............. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMsCtJA6YYsThanks Big C
There are no fish in sonic pond EDIT: Except 1 20lb catfish
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Re: Whats the most important deep diving crank factor?
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05/21/20 02:29 AM
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BigVes
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Yep and it helps to have an 8’ rod to get max distance. Most important factor is making sure your crankbait is running straight. Look up some YouTube videos on how to tune a crankbait. Many do not run straight out of the box
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Re: Whats the most important deep diving crank factor?
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05/21/20 02:44 AM
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You can get a 6XD down way past 20' Strolling if you use 10# fluorocarbon and let out 100-150 yards of line. The fluorocarbon pulls the bait down deeper. Keith Combs showed everyone that when he won the TTBC on Fork with 110# for 15 fish in three days. He said he could get an 8XD down to 45 feet on Fluoro strollin. ken I was just about to say the same thing with 10lb line you and long line a 6xd to almost 25ft.
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