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Re: Hydroxychloroquine
[Re: donothin]
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04/08/20 02:14 PM
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Duck_Hunter
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Good news. Now some positive evidence that it works rather than just testimonials. It should be cheap, quickly available and with known side effects. It’s over a week old. But just like that, you’re all good on this medication being used? Where do you think the president gets his information? That’s why last night it seemed like you were against it, just because it came out of his mouth, like he is playing doctor up there. You don’t think the experts on the task force and doctors quoted in the media have been saying this all along? Everything else was just “testimonials,” like it’s a commercial on TV? Give me a break.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine
[Re: Tallgrass05]
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04/08/20 02:15 PM
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Duck_Hunter
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The media reports on COVID-19 and potential damage. The media is bad and untrustworthy, interested only in promoting fear and sensationalism.
The media reports on the anecdotal use of hydroxychloroquine pushed by Trump. The media is good and can be trusted. Political posts belong in the bunker.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine
[Re: donothin]
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04/08/20 02:17 PM
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Good news. Now some positive evidence that it works rather than just testimonials. It should be cheap, quickly available and with known side effects. It is $30 for a 90 day supply at Costco. And since the course is say 5 days it should be cheap enough. So a 90 day could treat you and 18 of your friends at a cost $1.66 each or $3.12 if it’s two a day. Since an ICU room is $12000.00 (guess) a day seems like a good investment.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine
[Re: Allison1]
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04/08/20 07:36 PM
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Interesting but not definitive. I would have several questions not published in the study that IMO they should have published or should have tried to get a better group to study. I couldn’t agree more. There’s not even enough meat there to tell how it was delivered.... blinded, the specifics of the control group, etc? But in a bit of a crisis it warrants a closer look IMO.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine
[Re: Der Vorsteher]
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04/08/20 07:43 PM
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JacksonBean
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Are you saying this one coincidentally works for Lupus and CV? Yes.... by modulating the lysosomes it suppresses Lupus flare ups and makes the breakdown of lung tissue less severe by impeding their ability to digest adjacent material. Our cell’s digestive enzymes are harmful to us if not used properly. There are some great articles on the mechanism if you have trouble sleeping at night. Very thorough.  Yes, yes.... Just a dentist. Not trying to get fancy.  I was a biomedical sciences nerd previous to that which qualifies me to bore folks to death in more than one way. 
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine
[Re: JRGOCARDS]
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04/08/20 08:06 PM
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Administering the stuff today.
Advice? Wise men don't need it. Fools won't heed it !
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine
[Re: JRGOCARDS]
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04/08/20 08:07 PM
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RayBob
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Advice? Wise men don't need it. Fools won't heed it !
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine
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04/08/20 08:11 PM
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Chris B
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I think they should rename it the Trump pill.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine
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04/08/20 08:18 PM
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donothin
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Good news. Now some positive evidence that it works rather than just testimonials. It should be cheap, quickly available and with known side effects. It’s over a week old. But just like that, you’re all good on this medication being used? Where do you think the president gets his information? That’s why last night it seemed like you were against it, just because it came out of his mouth, like he is playing doctor up there. You don’t think the experts on the task force and doctors quoted in the media have been saying this all along? Everything else was just “testimonials,” like it’s a commercial on TV? Give me a break. Apparently you haven't been to the witch doctor.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine
[Re: JRGOCARDS]
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04/08/20 08:23 PM
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donothin
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Where does the POTUS get his information? No telling. If he gets it and likes it, it is good. If he gets it and doesn't like, he fires the guy and shops somewhere else.
Not endorsing the use of it or against the use of it. Just saying that now there does seem to be some tangible evidence as well as possible significant side effects.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine
[Re: donothin]
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04/08/20 08:32 PM
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Where does the POTUS get his information? No telling. If he gets it and likes it, it is good. If he gets it and doesn't like, he fires the guy and shops somewhere else.
Not endorsing the use of it or against the use of it. Just saying that now there does seem to be some tangible evidence as well as possible significant side effects. ... but it’s the same “possible significant sides effects” that have been known for decades. 
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine
[Re: JacksonBean]
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04/08/20 08:37 PM
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Are you saying this one coincidentally works for Lupus and CV? Yes.... by modulating the lysosomes it suppresses Lupus flare ups and makes the breakdown of lung tissue less severe by impeding their ability to digest adjacent material. Our cell’s digestive enzymes are harmful to us if not used properly. There are some great articles on the mechanism if you have trouble sleeping at night. Very thorough.  Yes, yes.... Just a dentist. Not trying to get fancy.  I was a biomedical sciences nerd previous to that which qualifies me to bore folks to death in more than one way.  Doc Bean the Quarantine Machine. Nothing worse then biomedical science people.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine
[Re: Scoundrel]
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04/08/20 08:52 PM
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rj74955
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Where does the POTUS get his information? No telling. If he gets it and likes it, it is good. If he gets it and doesn't like, he fires the guy and shops somewhere else.
Not endorsing the use of it or against the use of it. Just saying that now there does seem to be some tangible evidence as well as possible significant side effects. ... but it’s the same “possible significant sides effects” that have been known for decades.  A rash and a tummy ache, possibly.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine
[Re: donothin]
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04/08/20 09:43 PM
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Where does the POTUS get his information? No telling. If he gets it and likes it, it is good. If he gets it and doesn't like, he fires the guy and shops somewhere else.
Not endorsing the use of it or against the use of it. Just saying that now there does seem to be some tangible evidence as well as possible significant side effects. He does have the best medical people in the country at his disposal. If your company answers the phone and it's the president, I highly doubt a true American company would tell him to shove it because they dont like him.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine
[Re: JRGOCARDS]
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04/08/20 09:48 PM
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Allison1
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I think he gets confused when he gets questions presented. He does better when he is not interacting with the press. From what I've seen most of his gaffs are when he is not reading a script and trying to explain something.
He's getting better but he would be better served by getting a press secretary. Whoever can answer known questions, say they'll get back when someone asks a what if and the good ones don't make up stuff in order to keep their jobs.
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