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Re: 1Shot
[Re: lconn4]
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01/20/20 03:03 AM
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That is strange allright. What caliber? Could be some thug that thought he would shoot the window to get in to steal some stuff and was not aware of what the noise would be like. They likely got scared and ran.
I know there are tons of different tests done by tons of different ballistics afficianados, but I read once where it was mostly a .45 that would have the energy to go through car doors reliably. It was mostly just due to the energy, which is due to the mass of the projectile. Like 230 gr. of lead is a better choice for shooting through doors and windows.
But, my son in law admitted to me that he and his dad and brother once got a 2x6 and put it on a chair in their garage thinking that it would stop a 9mm. Well it went through the 2x6, through the wooden frame of the chair, through the wall and through a kitchen wall stopping finally in an outside brick wall.
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Re: 1Shot
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01/20/20 03:05 AM
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That is strange allright. What caliber? Could be some thug that thought he would shoot the window to get in to steal some stuff and was not aware of what the noise would be like. They likely got scared and ran.
I know there are tons of different tests done by tons of different ballistics afficianados, but I read once where it was mostly a .45 that would have the energy to go through car doors reliably. It was mostly just due to the energy, which is due to the mass of the projectile. Like 230 gr. of lead is a better choice for shooting through doors and windows.
But, my son in law admitted to me that he and his dad and brother once got a 2x6 and put it on a chair in their garage thinking that it would stop a 9mm. Well it went through the 2x6, through the wooden frame of the chair, through the wall and through a kitchen wall stopping finally in an outside brick wall.
The casing looked large.
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Re: 1Shot
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01/20/20 03:14 AM
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Bob Davis
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That is strange allright. What caliber? Could be some thug that thought he would shoot the window to get in to steal some stuff and was not aware of what the noise would be like. They likely got scared and ran.
I know there are tons of different tests done by tons of different ballistics afficianados, but I read once where it was mostly a .45 that would have the energy to go through car doors reliably. It was mostly just due to the energy, which is due to the mass of the projectile. Like 230 gr. of lead is a better choice for shooting through doors and windows.
But, my son in law admitted to me that he and his dad and brother once got a 2x6 and put it on a chair in their garage thinking that it would stop a 9mm. Well it went through the 2x6, through the wooden frame of the chair, through the wall and through a kitchen wall stopping finally in an outside brick wall.
The casing looked large. Yeah, at first glance I was thinking .45. I shoot a lot of .45 cal.
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Re: 1Shot
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01/20/20 03:20 AM
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9mm. Casing looked very old to me, like it had been in the gun a long time.
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Re: 1Shot
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01/20/20 03:24 AM
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Well good enough apparently. How did the cops handle it? We are armchair detectives here. Do they think it is a serious thing or "Well, welcome to club Mr. Iconn. We have 100 other similar cases to work" .
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Re: 1Shot
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01/20/20 03:40 AM
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Well good enough apparently. How did the cops handle it? We are armchair detectives here. Do they think it is a serious thing or "Well, welcome to club Mr. Iconn. We have 100 other similar cases to work" . Took them half an hour to get here, I called twice thinking I might have given wrong address. The first guy to show up was clueless. He didn't believe the hole in bottom of gate was made from bullet. The second guy knew it immediately. They didn't understand why someone would shoot my car and not take anything when there was stuff everywhere including a vault small case (for my new camera) that could be seen, my waterproof camera was in the passenger seat, 4 fishing rods (loomis, st croix, kistler, and falcon, calcuttas and sustain reels. It could have been a lot worse. That's why I was wondering if the person could have had that glass blow back in his face. Cops didn't give me an impression one way or another what they thought. Since they took no fingerprints, didn't have a metal detector to look for bullet.. who knows.
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Re: 1Shot
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01/20/20 03:42 AM
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9mm. Casing looked very old to me, like it had been in the gun a long time. Looks like current steel from a manufacture like Wolf or TulAmmo. What was on the headstamp? Pretty strange.
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Re: 1Shot
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01/20/20 04:30 AM
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Re: 1Shot
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01/20/20 04:36 AM
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Well good enough apparently. How did the cops handle it? We are armchair detectives here. Do they think it is a serious thing or "Well, welcome to club Mr. Iconn. We have 100 other similar cases to work" . Took them half an hour to get here, I called twice thinking I might have given wrong address. The first guy to show up was clueless. He didn't believe the hole in bottom of gate was made from bullet. The second guy knew it immediately. They didn't understand why someone would shoot my car and not take anything when there was stuff everywhere including a vault small case (for my new camera) that could be seen, my waterproof camera was in the passenger seat, 4 fishing rods (loomis, st croix, kistler, and falcon, calcuttas and sustain reels. It could have been a lot worse. That's why I was wondering if the person could have had that glass blow back in his face. Cops didn't give me an impression one way or another what they thought. Since they took no fingerprints, didn't have a metal detector to look for bullet.. who knows. Could have blown back I suppose. They must have been high or really stupid or both. A spring loaded metal punch will shatter a car window with a lot less noise than a 9mm. The thing that would really pizz me off, had it been my truck is knowing that the door will never, ever be the same. The body shop won't get the paint right, the color won't match, the trim will never go back on the same, the window probably won't ever work right. Best bet is to have it fixed then dump it on a trade. I've yet to ever have any decent body work done on a vehicle. But I digress. Sorry. It will be okay.
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Re: 1Shot
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01/20/20 04:38 AM
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Crazy deal. Glad your safe
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Re: 1Shot
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01/20/20 04:49 AM
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This is nucking futs. Glad you are okay
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Re: 1Shot
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01/20/20 04:58 AM
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One cop said person might have had a silencer right off the bat when I told him I didn't hear a thing, as if it was a common thing around here.
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Re: 1Shot
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01/20/20 05:19 AM
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One cop said person might have had a silencer right off the bat when I told him I didn't hear a thing, as if it was a common thing around here. You must have really pissed someone off if that is the case...
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Re: 1Shot
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01/20/20 05:36 AM
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Get off my lawn! I did have an altercation with a neighbor about two or three years ago. It was a total misunderstanding but strong words were exchanged between my neighbor (widowed lady whose deceased husband was sheriff here at one time), her nephew, and his crackhead girlfriend. Yes I called her a crackhead. I then accused all three of trying to take financial advantage of my mom. They claimed they were going to do the work for free..... righhhht! My mom had the start of dementia and was always trying to pay folks outrageous amounts for tiny jobs. When the neighbor lady threw down the "my husband was the sheriff" card, I threw down the "well what would you think if you saw a crackhead in your back yard and she was walking away without answering what she was doing there? I ended up calling police and they came and straightened everything out. Sheriff lady never allowed on property or will be charged with trespassing.
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Re: 1Shot
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01/20/20 06:06 AM
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Just maybe someone wanted to steal something, had gun at the ready and somehow an accidental discharge occurred.....
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