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People from California #13405558 01/15/20 10:21 PM
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Re: People from California [Re: uncle_bagster] #13405560 01/15/20 10:22 PM
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I don't see a problem.


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Re: People from California [Re: uncle_bagster] #13405569 01/15/20 10:28 PM
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No one was arrested or charged for attempted theft because Cornutt and Grillot never made an official report to law enforcement.


The problem is there's such a thing as entrapment, and this goes far above and beyond what's reasonable.

If I catch somebody breaking into my house or stealing my stuff, they're going to be in a world of hurt. But what says they got the right thieves when they beat whoever with a baseball bat? How can they be certain it wasn't a crime of opportunity?

Just saying there's a right way to do things and a wrong way.

Re: People from California [Re: uncle_bagster] #13405572 01/15/20 10:31 PM
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I have zero/none, feelings of sympathy for anyone that came into their yard and tried to steal anything-
If you are going to steal, there may be consequences-
And in this case there was-

Kudoโ€™s to this couple-


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Re: People from California [Re: uncle_bagster] #13405583 01/15/20 10:49 PM
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I must admit that posting the videos to Youtube went above and beyond the line of stupidity ...


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Re: People from California [Re: Kattelyn] #13405586 01/15/20 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Kattelyn
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No one was arrested or charged for attempted theft because Cornutt and Grillot never made an official report to law enforcement.


The problem is there's such a thing as entrapment, and this goes far above and beyond what's reasonable.

If I catch somebody breaking into my house or stealing my stuff, they're going to be in a world of hurt. But what says they got the right thieves when they beat whoever with a baseball bat? How can they be certain it wasn't a crime of opportunity?

Just saying there's a right way to do things and a wrong way.


Crime of opportunity is still a crime.


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No one was arrested or charged for attempted theft because Cornutt and Grillot never made an official report to law enforcement.


The problem is there's such a thing as entrapment, and this goes far above and beyond what's reasonable.

If I catch somebody breaking into my house or stealing my stuff, they're going to be in a world of hurt. But what says they got the right thieves when they beat whoever with a baseball bat? How can they be certain it wasn't a crime of opportunity?

Just saying there's a right way to do things and a wrong way.


Crime of opportunity is still a crime.


Yeah, but this isn't the wild west any more either.

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I don't see a problem.


Except they put the video on youtube and got caught. The dark of night and a shovel can be your best friend.


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Re: People from California [Re: Kattelyn] #13405611 01/15/20 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kattelyn
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No one was arrested or charged for attempted theft because Cornutt and Grillot never made an official report to law enforcement.


The problem is there's such a thing as entrapment, and this goes far above and beyond what's reasonable.

If I catch somebody breaking into my house or stealing my stuff, they're going to be in a world of hurt. But what says they got the right thieves when they beat whoever with a baseball bat? How can they be certain it wasn't a crime of opportunity?

Just saying there's a right way to do things and a wrong way.


I donโ€™t think the intention was to beat up the original thieves. I think they baited whoever would try to steal the bike and beat them up in real time, as they were stealing the bike.

It was a crime of opportunity for the bike stealers. It was also allegedly a crime of opportunity for the homeowners who were beating up would-be thieves.


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Re: People from California [Re: uncle_bagster] #13405636 01/15/20 11:47 PM
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The intention of the whole shebang was to get a video on YouTube. I'd bet my bottom dollar on that. I would be more worried about Civil suits than criminal charges. With this being in CA, you never know, though. By the way, entrapment is a legal defense against the State, not an individual.

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Reminds me off people using Deer Feeders !!!!


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Originally Posted by V-Bottom
Reminds me off people using Deer Feeders !!!!

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Re: People from California [Re: uncle_bagster] #13405698 01/16/20 12:50 AM
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Hunting over bait?

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