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Medicinal plant knowledge rant #13404096 01/14/20 03:58 PM
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GD Hippy froo froo wannabes just make me want to beat them bloody.

Y'all know I teach wild foods and medicines. I learned this from people who had to know it before modern medicine was honestly even invented, much less available here in the wild west of Texas 100+ years ago. I have stories of uses in my head from almost 200 years ago on the damn Trail of Tears. We HAD TO know this to survive.

I'm also the family hospice nurse. I would stay with family in the hospital as their patient advocate, then I would bring them home and care for them, and I would ease their passage into heaven. I have treated many cases of diabetic gangrene, various end stage cancers, wounds that would not heal.

And this GD hippy "big pharma" [censored] where they're wanting to leave modern medicine behind to go back to using plants, but not knowing what they are, what they actually do or why, and wanting to cure sh*t with the spiritual vibrations of plants and rocks and sht just makes me want to take a switch to them and beat until they come to their senses. You can EITHER peel willow stems, cut into 1" lengths, boil down gently for an hour, or soak for 3 weeks, and drink that liquid, OR YOU CAN TAKE A FKING ASPRIN.

Science is the careful observation, testing, and recording of the natural world. We find a plant that works. We observe then extract the useful compound from the plant while discarding the either useless, or counterproductive parts. That leaves us with the pure form that we can then properly dose for just enough to be effective without overdosing the patient. You can't tell me how much useful properties are in one leaf to the next, much less how much you need to use. But we now have these people who want to teach medicinal plants as though they are experts at it, when they can't tell me the active compounds that we are using. They can't tell me WHY you would feed a plug of tobacco to a horse or why you would sprinkle a little bit around and in the hole for a newly planted tree. These are people who swear by organic because it's "chemical free".

I teach to preserve knowledge. I am extremely careful to not teach the dangerous stuff that we had to know in order to save lives. And then I see these idiots wanting to use dangerous treatments that I know better than to use because "big pharma". Go to the damn doctor. Get it taken care of before it turns into gangrene or something worse. And stop acting like it's spiritual. You're not a shaman or a doctor. You're playing fairies in the woods.

End rant.... ish.

Re: Medicinal plant knowledge rant [Re: Kattelyn] #13404102 01/14/20 04:03 PM
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Kat........this post made my day!


I can't count to times I cracked up. Thank you.

Re: Medicinal plant knowledge rant [Re: Kattelyn] #13404108 01/14/20 04:07 PM
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When my mom cut willow limbs I always needed a couple aspirins after she was finished.

Re: Medicinal plant knowledge rant [Re: Kattelyn] #13404112 01/14/20 04:09 PM
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HAH! Okay! Thank you! Um... I'm just blowing off steam because they'll come to me wanting to have a cup of tea and pick my brain. There's exactly a snowball's chance in hell of me ever telling them a damn bit of what I know because I know for a fact they're going to hurt somebody with it.

But people buy this. Every day. People pay fairly large sums of money for this nonsense.

I'm preserving old knowledge.. Simply the stuff my family has done for generations. The knowledge that every weed and flower that you see out there has a use and a purpose and a story behind it. Sharing the passion for not just our knowledge, but gathering knowledge from other sources... for plants that we didn't know.

Re: Medicinal plant knowledge rant [Re: Kattelyn] #13404128 01/14/20 04:21 PM
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Dang. You were on the Trail of Tears? I would love to pick your brain on that.


Luke 6:22-23

22 Blessed are you when people hate you,
when they exclude you, insult you,
and slander your name as evil
because of the Son of Man.

23 Rejoice in that day and leap for joy. Take note—your reward is great in heaven, for this is the way their ancestors used to treat the prophets.
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My great great grandmother was. They're the oldest stories that I was taught.

Re: Medicinal plant knowledge rant [Re: Kattelyn] #13404145 01/14/20 04:31 PM
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Let's get together and sit around passing the bong back and forth and we can discuss all of these thoughts of yours.

Re: Medicinal plant knowledge rant [Re: Kattelyn] #13404147 01/14/20 04:33 PM
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That’s a while back. Wonder how much word of mouth stories change over that much time? Probably why science took over.
I remember my granddad using different cures for things. In summers when I would spend time with him if you got a cut or splinter he would use grease on it. If you got a bad splinter he would take the splinter out and put it in grease. Grease as in petroleum type. Not cooking type.

So are you an advocate of marijuana use? Many people have been “researching” its effects for long time.


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22 Blessed are you when people hate you,
when they exclude you, insult you,
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because of the Son of Man.

23 Rejoice in that day and leap for joy. Take note—your reward is great in heaven, for this is the way their ancestors used to treat the prophets.
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Originally Posted by BassFever
Let's get together and sit around passing the bong back and forth and we can discuss all of these thoughts of yours.


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Luke 6:22-23

22 Blessed are you when people hate you,
when they exclude you, insult you,
and slander your name as evil
because of the Son of Man.

23 Rejoice in that day and leap for joy. Take note—your reward is great in heaven, for this is the way their ancestors used to treat the prophets.
Re: Medicinal plant knowledge rant [Re: Kattelyn] #13404153 01/14/20 04:37 PM
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cheers Marijuana was in the pharmacopeia too. And the absurdity of THAT being illegal is another rant for another time. Proven for treatment of chronic pain, anxiety related disorders, PTSD, and diminished appetite. Used in combination with other medications it could be extremely powerful. BUT because Nixon wanted to hurt the Latino community, and because of the tobacco industry, we have yet another prohibition ruining hundreds of thousands of lives for no reason.

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Originally Posted by Kattelyn
cheers Marijuana was in the pharmacopeia too. And the absurdity of THAT being illegal is another rant for another time. Proven for treatment of chronic pain, anxiety related disorders, PTSD, and diminished appetite. Used in combination with other medications it could be extremely powerful. BUT because Nixon wanted to hurt the Latino community, and because of the tobacco industry, we have yet another prohibition ruining hundreds of thousands of lives for no reason.


Nixon, weed and Latinos are why it's illegal? Puff n pass...

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"GD Hippy froo froo wannabes".

"And this GD hippy "big pharma" [censored]".

"We have these people who want to teach medicinal plants as though they are experts at it".

" these idiots wanting to use dangerous treatments that I know better than to use because "big pharma".


Not sure exactly whom this rant is aimed at, but seems like you've pretty much covered all the bases.
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I wanna hear a story !

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