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Re: Fort Worth's turn [Re: Fishingking] #13313371 10/16/19 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishingking
This guy has hired Jim Lane for an Attorney. He is the guy that cops feared to have to go against but the first to call when they are in trouble. I am telling you when this guy is hired the fat lady hasn't sung yet.


he represented my buddy
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didn't hit a lick

Re: Fort Worth's turn [Re: Big_Country01] #13313372 10/16/19 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Big_Country01
A simple knock on the front door could have prevented all of this. Why hasnt anyone said this yet???

If they roll up with whatever information that was sent to them, and there is possibly it’s actually a possible break in, they are not just going to knock on the door until they know what the situation actually is, unfortunately it didn’t get that far before it went tragic-

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Re: Fort Worth's turn [Re: Bigbob_FTW] #13313592 10/16/19 05:04 PM
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I saw where TX master pro was able to dismiss this whole thing by chalking it up to “It is what it is“ based on the percentages of LEO contacts/shootings/Man hours on the job. That may work for him but it doesn’t work for me. An innocent life snuffed out because of a stupid mistake never gets chalked up to “It is what it is“. As a matter of fact, I will bet a dime to dollar that he doesn’t just accept a police officer getting killed in the line of duty as it is what it is and just ate part of the job.

All of you staunch LEO supporters are always talking an eye for an eye, hang them up from the trees in the town square, electrocution, firing squad. Well, that stuff goes both ways. This idiot murdered that innocent woman in her own home and he deserves to die

Re: Fort Worth's turn [Re: Bigbob_FTW] #13313607 10/16/19 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigbob_FTW
If she had shot him she would have been within her right. she feared for her life.



You can’t shoot people on the other side of walls and claim fear for your life

Re: Fort Worth's turn [Re: birddogcatfish] #13313614 10/16/19 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by birddogcatfish
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If she had shot him she would have been within her right. she feared for her life.



You can’t shoot people on the other side of walls and claim fear for your life


she very well could have seen the gun and fired. yes you can.


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Re: Fort Worth's turn [Re: RedEar12] #13313620 10/16/19 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RedEar12
I saw where TX master pro was able to dismiss this whole thing by chalking it up to “It is what it is“ based on the percentages of LEO contacts/shootings/Man hours on the job. That may work for him but it doesn’t work for me. An innocent life snuffed out because of a stupid mistake never gets chalked up to “It is what it is“. As a matter of fact, I will bet a dime to dollar that he doesn’t just accept a police officer getting killed in the line of duty as it is what it is and just ate part of the job.

All of you staunch LEO supporters are always talking an eye for an eye, hang them up from the trees in the town square, electrocution, firing squad. Well, that stuff goes both ways. This idiot murdered that innocent woman in her own home and he deserves to die


Yeah, I obviously wasn't referring specifically to her death sport....clearly said if it's criminal treat us like everyone else. And as a matter of fact, getting killed in the line of duty is part of the GD job and we all accept that. Please let me die running towards the sound of gunfire instead of wasting away on my couch!

Dismissed it?? Just stfu with that nonsense


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Re: Fort Worth's turn [Re: birddogcatfish] #13313621 10/16/19 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by birddogcatfish
Originally Posted by Bigbob_FTW
If she had shot him she would have been within her right. she feared for her life.



You can’t shoot people on the other side of walls and claim fear for your life


Lol, well if that's the case I would assume it applies to Leo also.....

Re: Fort Worth's turn [Re: steveiam] #13313622 10/16/19 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by steveiam
Alright I’m going to join into the “what if” part of this-

What if the call came to the officers that it was something other than a simple welfare check, we don’t really know how the call was sent to them-
It’s possible the way the call was sent wasn’t a simple welfare check, and so arriving on scene to a situation that looked suspicious to them would put them into a different response mode-
To me this possibly matters a lot, and it would help me be more able to understand why TWO officers decided how they responded to this call with the limited and possibly incorrect information relayed to them at the time-
This is just another possible angle to this that I see as what MAY have started a terrible chain of events.


It changes things, but not for the officer who shot her, in my opinion. If dispatch screwed up between the time the non-emergency number was called for a welfare check and it was relayed to the responding officers, it means the police made an additional mistake.

What’s the non-emergency line for, if they dispatch it as a burglary in progress and treat it like they’re going to be ambushed or someone is being held hostage when the caller just reported that a front door has been open for a few hours and requested a welfare check?


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Re: Fort Worth's turn [Re: birddogcatfish] #13313623 10/16/19 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by birddogcatfish
Originally Posted by Bigbob_FTW
If she had shot him she would have been within her right. she feared for her life.



You can’t shoot people on the other side of walls and claim fear for your life


Except it was a window and that’s exactly what the officer did.


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Re: Fort Worth's turn [Re: RedEar12] #13313653 10/16/19 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RedEar12
This idiot murdered that innocent woman in her own home and he deserves to die

Really, he deserves to die? She pointed a gun at a uniformed police officer but he deserves to die.


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Originally Posted by Chris B
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This idiot murdered that innocent woman in her own home and he deserves to die

Really, he deserves to die? She pointed a gun at a uniformed police officer but he deserves to die.


now how in the hell did she know he was uniformed police officer? Not making a case for or against punishment, but this is just trying to introduce drama.


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Re: Fort Worth's turn [Re: Bigbob_FTW] #13313684 10/16/19 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigbob_FTW
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This idiot murdered that innocent woman in her own home and he deserves to die

Really, he deserves to die? She pointed a gun at a uniformed police officer but he deserves to die.


now how in the hell did she know he was uniformed police officer? Not making a case for or against punishment, but this is just trying to introduce drama.



I agree. Hard to see who is who when you have a flashlight in your face.

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Originally Posted by Bigbob_FTW
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If she had shot him she would have been within her right. she feared for her life.



You can’t shoot people on the other side of walls and claim fear for your life


she very well could have seen the gun and fired. yes you can.

You don’t even need to see a gun.

Re: Fort Worth's turn [Re: Bigbob_FTW] #13313689 10/16/19 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigbob_FTW
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This idiot murdered that innocent woman in her own home and he deserves to die

Really, he deserves to die? She pointed a gun at a uniformed police officer but he deserves to die.


now how in the hell did she know he was uniformed police officer? Not making a case for or against punishment, but this is just trying to introduce drama.

How in the heck did he know she wasn't a criminal? Sounds like a terrible accident to me. Certainly not worth the death penalty for the officer that redear wants.


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Re: Fort Worth's turn [Re: Big_Country01] #13313702 10/16/19 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Big_Country01
A simple knock on the front door could have prevented all of this. Why hasnt anyone said this yet???

2:30am in the hood. Front door is open. Anyone with common sense is thinking it’s a break in. Do you know what the tactical name for a doorway is? It’s called a vertical coffin for a reason.

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