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Re: Fort Worth's turn
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10/16/19 01:00 PM
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butch sanders
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So does it change anyone's opinion of the officer now that it has come out that she was pointing a gun at him? if it is true (lot's of misinformation out there) it doesn't change a thing. she would have been well within her rights to do so. Bigbob, What was he suppose to do if she pointed a gun at him? Take one in the chest? Yes, he put himself in that situation, but I think he is going to walk from a criminal standpoint. how big was the window 10 foot wide? why not take 1 step to the right 1 to the chest would have bruised him & taught him a lesson though
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/16/19 01:04 PM
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Chris B
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So does it change anyone's opinion of the officer now that it has come out that she was pointing a gun at him? if it is true (lot's of misinformation out there) it doesn't change a thing. she would have been well within her rights to do so. Bigbob, What was he suppose to do if she pointed a gun at him? Take one in the chest? Yes, he put himself in that situation, but I think is going to get off criminal. move out of the line of fire comes to mind. You must be pretty fast for a Big Bob. My .45 covers over a 1000 fps. While I think the police were wrong to get in the unfortunate situation they were in (two individuals pointing guns at each other divided by a single pane of glass). I agree the officer was quicker to the draw.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Chris B]
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10/16/19 01:10 PM
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Nickbyrd
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So does it change anyone's opinion of the officer now that it has come out that she was pointing a gun at him? It at least proves that he didn’t just shoot her for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING... she did not deserved to be shot at all but you can see how the scene plays out a little different and he gets jumpy and bang . Mistakes were made that cost a woman her life
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
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10/16/19 01:12 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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If she had shot him she would have been within her right. she feared for her life.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/16/19 01:16 PM
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JIM SR.
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did anyone determine why the front door was wide-open and had been for hours,...??
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/16/19 01:19 PM
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Chris B
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If she had shot him she would have been within her right. she feared for her life. Actually I think your supposed to drag the body in the house afterwards. But, no I agree she would have been within her rights. If I was the officer down in the hood at 2:30am investigating a possible burglary and found the barrel of a gun pointing at me I'm pretty sure I would have done the same. You know she had the option of calling 911 rather than going for a gun also.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
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10/16/19 01:19 PM
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Urban Fisher
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did anyone determine why the front door was wide-open and had been for hours,...?? Wasn't that a night after that cold front? I have been known to open my windows and doors when we have nice weather temp wise. Maybe not at 2 am, but then again I am not a night person. Some people are.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Chris B]
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10/16/19 01:20 PM
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If she had shot him she would have been within her right. she feared for her life. Actually I think your supposed to drag the body in the house afterwards. But, no I agree she would have been within her rights. If I was the officer down in the hood at 2:30am investigating a possible burglary and found the barrel of a gun pointing at me I'm pretty sure I would have done the same. You know she had the option of calling 911 rather than going for a gun also. true, but I still can't get past that they should have just knocked on the door and announced. it was a non-emergency call and they had plenty of help.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/16/19 01:23 PM
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Chris B
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If she had shot him she would have been within her right. she feared for her life. Actually I think your supposed to drag the body in the house afterwards. But, no I agree she would have been within her rights. If I was the officer down in the hood at 2:30am investigating a possible burglary and found the barrel of a gun pointing at me I'm pretty sure I would have done the same. You know she had the option of calling 911 rather than going for a gun also. true, but I still can't get past that they should have just knocked on the door and announced. it was a non-emergency call and they had plenty of help. Agree 100%.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Chris B]
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10/16/19 01:48 PM
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If she had shot him she would have been within her right. she feared for her life. Actually I think your supposed to drag the body in the house afterwards. But, no I agree she would have been within her rights. If I was the officer down in the hood at 2:30am investigating a possible burglary and found the barrel of a gun pointing at me I'm pretty sure I would have done the same. You know she had the option of calling 911 rather than going for a gun also. I pretty sure that dragging a body around is called Tampering with Evidence. Besides if you are correct in what you are doing it does not matter where the body falls.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/16/19 01:48 PM
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Alright I’m going to join into the “what if” part of this-
What if the call came to the officers that it was something other than a simple welfare check, we don’t really know how the call was sent to them- It’s possible the way the call was sent wasn’t a simple welfare check, and so arriving on scene to a situation that looked suspicious to them would put them into a different response mode- To me this possibly matters a lot, and it would help me be more able to understand why TWO officers decided how they responded to this call with the limited and possibly incorrect information relayed to them at the time- This is just another possible angle to this that I see as what MAY have started a terrible chain of events.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/16/19 01:53 PM
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Fishingking
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This guy has hired Jim Lane for an Attorney. He is the guy that cops feared to have to go against but the first to call when they are in trouble. I am telling you when this guy is hired the fat lady hasn't sung yet.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/16/19 02:07 PM
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44 Diesel
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If she had shot him she would have been within her right. she feared for her life. Actually I think your supposed to drag the body in the house afterwards. But, no I agree she would have been within her rights. If I was the officer down in the hood at 2:30am investigating a possible burglary and found the barrel of a gun pointing at me I'm pretty sure I would have done the same. You know she had the option of calling 911 rather than going for a gun also. true, but I still can't get past that they should have just knocked on the door and announced. it was a non-emergency call and they had plenty of help. Although it was a non emergency call it wasn't a welfare check. It was an open structure call which I would think the officer would have a different state mind.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/16/19 02:13 PM
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Big_Country01
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A simple knock on the front door could have prevented all of this. Why hasnt anyone said this yet???
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Chris B]
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10/16/19 02:19 PM
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butch sanders
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If she had shot him she would have been within her right. she feared for her life. Actually I think your supposed to drag the body in the house afterwards. But, no I agree she would have been within her rights. If I was the officer down in the hood at 2:30am investigating a possible burglary and found the barrel of a gun pointing at me I'm pretty sure I would have done the same. You know she had the option of calling 911 rather than going for a gun also. 911 was already there come on dude
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