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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/16/19 05:47 AM
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ToasterWEyes
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/16/19 05:57 AM
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ToasterWEyes
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Prayers to all of those affected by this shooting, including the responding officers. And shame on the police chief for hanging one of his own men before the investigation is even fully underway....
It's only a good cast if you catch a fish... Personal Best: 11.62 lbs
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/16/19 06:43 AM
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Nickbyrd
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Why the hell are these stats relevant at all to anything they are unecessary . This is what nobody wants to talk about the media displaying this is what gets everything all riled up . I sound like the water boys momma but I don’t have a better description “ ITS THE DEVIL !!”
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/16/19 12:08 PM
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Chris B
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So does it change anyone's opinion of the officer now that it has come out that she was pointing a gun at him?
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Chris B]
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10/16/19 12:15 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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So does it change anyone's opinion of the officer now that it has come out that she was pointing a gun at him? if it is true (lot's of misinformation out there) it doesn't change a thing. she would have been well within her rights to do so.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/16/19 12:22 PM
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/16/19 12:30 PM
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barndoor
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So does it change anyone's opinion of the officer now that it has come out that she was pointing a gun at him? if it is true (lot's of misinformation out there) it doesn't change a thing. she would have been well within her rights to do so. Bigbob, What was he suppose to do if she pointed a gun at him? Take one in the chest? Yes, he put himself in that situation, but I think he is going to walk from a criminal standpoint.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Chris B]
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10/16/19 12:31 PM
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Urban Fisher
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So does it change anyone's opinion of the officer now that it has come out that she was pointing a gun at him? He was just quicker at the draw. Some facts and some assumptions. Lady at home with young relative playing video games late at night with front door open. She was a pharmaceutical sales rep. Neighbor worried and calls a non emergency line for a welfare check. Cops come...ok not SWAT give it up Rangerkev...yes I exaggerated for effect, get over it. But, they were called as a SRT (if I remember right it means Special Response Team). Hypothetical time...This time the lady hears the cop we'll say going through a gate to get in the back yard and she grabs her gun. This time she is a faster draw and shoots the cop and kills him. Is she now a cop killer/murder or someone with the right to protect themselves in their own house? Again she is a sales rep and probably has no professional training in self defense nor tactical situations. The cop however is. You are considered a "professional" if you get paid for your expertise. So he has been trained in firearm use and other tactical situations. She has no idea what is going on...he does. In this case he is actually the perpetrator. He was the cause and effect by not handling the situation properly. Again this was a non emergency welfare check...no shots fired, no immediate danger reported. The way they approached the house, guns drawn unannounced, going through a dark backyard...that's what caused this situation that could have (and did) go horribly wrong. And yes bad things happen to good people. This is a horrible tragedy. But even really good people may make a bad decision that effects many lives much bigger than the ones that actually perished. Example...good guy maybe drinks a bit too much with buddies. Happens to get in a horrible wreck and kills innocent people. Was he really a bad person? Maybe not, but he did make a bad decision that resulted in a horrible tragedy.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: barndoor]
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10/16/19 12:34 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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So does it change anyone's opinion of the officer now that it has come out that she was pointing a gun at him? if it is true (lot's of misinformation out there) it doesn't change a thing. she would have been well within her rights to do so. Bigbob, What was he suppose to do if she pointed a gun at him? Take one in the chest? Yes, he put himself in that situation, but I think is going to get off criminal. move out of the line of fire comes to mind.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: barndoor]
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10/16/19 12:43 PM
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Duck_Hunter
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So does it change anyone's opinion of the officer now that it has come out that she was pointing a gun at him? if it is true (lot's of misinformation out there) it doesn't change a thing. she would have been well within her rights to do so. Bigbob, What was he suppose to do if she pointed a gun at him? Take one in the chest? Yes, he put himself in that situation, but I think he is going to walk from a criminal standpoint. Probably not run towards the window yelling “hands where I can see them.”
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Duck_Hunter]
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10/16/19 12:49 PM
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barndoor
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So does it change anyone's opinion of the officer now that it has come out that she was pointing a gun at him? if it is true (lot's of misinformation out there) it doesn't change a thing. she would have been well within her rights to do so. Bigbob, What was he suppose to do if she pointed a gun at him? Take one in the chest? Yes, he put himself in that situation, but I think he is going to walk from a criminal standpoint. Probably not run towards the window yelling “hands where I can see them.” He suppose to take off running the opposite way and get shot in the back?
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/16/19 12:54 PM
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barndoor
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So does it change anyone's opinion of the officer now that it has come out that she was pointing a gun at him? if it is true (lot's of misinformation out there) it doesn't change a thing. she would have been well within her rights to do so. Bigbob, What was he suppose to do if she pointed a gun at him? Take one in the chest? Yes, he put himself in that situation, but I think is going to get off criminal. move out of the line of fire comes to mind. It happened to fast Bob.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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10/16/19 12:54 PM
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Uncle Zeek
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Huh. I can see bad decisions by both. If I were the officer doing a simple welfare check, I would've had my flashlight on and announced my presence early on. If I were inside the house and heard noises, I wouldn't go to the window and point a gun outside - the interior light silhouettes you for a clear view to whoever is out there.
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: Chris B]
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10/16/19 12:56 PM
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butch sanders
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So does it change anyone's opinion of the officer now that it has come out that she was pointing a gun at him? makes him even more of an idiot for scaring that lady into defending herself
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Re: Fort Worth's turn
[Re: barndoor]
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10/16/19 12:57 PM
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butch sanders
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So does it change anyone's opinion of the officer now that it has come out that she was pointing a gun at him? if it is true (lot's of misinformation out there) it doesn't change a thing. she would have been well within her rights to do so. Bigbob, What was he suppose to do if she pointed a gun at him? Take one in the chest? Yes, he put himself in that situation, but I think he is going to walk from a criminal standpoint. dont sign up for a job you cannot handle
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