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Re: Cowboys vs. Jets - Official thread
[Re: fishslime]
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10/14/19 05:05 PM
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Happykamper
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Severe lack of discipline. That’s coaching issues. This is the whole thing. It's all on the clapper as far as I'm concerned. He's got too much of a Princeton approach instead of hard-nosed one that doesn't put up with mistakes. I wonder if he ever blows his gasket on the team in the locker room. A Cadillac team being driven like a Ford Fiesta. This screaming at the top of your lungs, dropping F bombs, kicking tables over, punching a hole through the wall is all overblown, you are dealing with young men who make more money than the coach. I have heard that he is way different behind closed doors. There are plenty of coaches who do not show their [censored] in front of the world. I have been as big a Garrett fan as anyone, but there comes a time when the culture or philosophy has to change, that time appears to be nearing.
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Re: Cowboys vs. Jets - Official thread
[Re: silvers]
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10/14/19 05:50 PM
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tricky
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Philly is going down
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Re: Cowboys vs. Jets - Official thread
[Re: tricky]
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10/14/19 06:20 PM
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fouzman
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"Things turn out best for those who make the best of the way things turn out" - Zachary Troy Schrah - a young man with vision far beyond his years.
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Re: Cowboys vs. Jets - Official thread
[Re: fouzman]
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10/14/19 06:58 PM
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Mark Perry
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But this is from same artivle you referenced above though you think Dak is not a capable QB. The Cowboys aren't bad. Prescott is an above-average starting quarterback,
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Re: Cowboys vs. Jets - Official thread
[Re: silvers]
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10/14/19 07:11 PM
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T Bird
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Beaten by the Jets. Absolutely indefensible!
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Re: Cowboys vs. Jets - Official thread
[Re: silvers]
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10/14/19 07:13 PM
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fouzman
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Above-average isn't exactly Top 5 QB's, Mark, which is all I heard about pre-season.. I maintain, Dak hasn't got it. Throws behind or overthrows wide open receivers more than he hits them. He's just above-average. Their first three wins were against very poor teams.
"Things turn out best for those who make the best of the way things turn out" - Zachary Troy Schrah - a young man with vision far beyond his years.
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Re: Cowboys vs. Jets - Official thread
[Re: fouzman]
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10/14/19 07:33 PM
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Mark Perry
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Above-average isn't exactly Top 5 QB's, Mark, which is all I heard about pre-season.. I maintain, Dak hasn't got it. Throws behind or overthrows wide open receivers more than he hits them. He's just above-average. Their first three wins were against very poor teams. 27 teams do not have a top 5 QB...his numbers and winning percentage proves he is more tgan capable.
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Re: Cowboys vs. Jets - Official thread
[Re: silvers]
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10/14/19 07:45 PM
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fouzman
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4 09/29 @ NO L 10-12 1 1 22 33 66.7 223 6.8 0 1 1 11 73.2 1 7 7.0 0 -- -- 5 10/06 GB L 24-34 1 1 27 44 61.4 463 10.5 2 3 3 22 83.8 4 27 6.8 0 -- -- 6 10/13 @ NYJ L 22-24 1 1 28 40 70.0 277 6.9 0 0 1 8 89.3 3 11 3.7 1 -- --
Passer rating of 89.3, 83. 08 and 73.2 in his last three games say otherwise. Maybe he's just in a slump. Or maybe the first three teams they beat are really bad.
"Things turn out best for those who make the best of the way things turn out" - Zachary Troy Schrah - a young man with vision far beyond his years.
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Re: Cowboys vs. Jets - Official thread
[Re: fouzman]
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10/14/19 07:56 PM
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Mark Perry
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4 09/29 @ NO L 10-12 1 1 22 33 66.7 223 6.8 0 1 1 11 73.2 1 7 7.0 0 -- -- 5 10/06 GB L 24-34 1 1 27 44 61.4 463 10.5 2 3 3 22 83.8 4 27 6.8 0 -- -- 6 10/13 @ NYJ L 22-24 1 1 28 40 70.0 277 6.9 0 0 1 8 89.3 3 11 3.7 1 -- --
Passer rating of 89.3, 83. 08 and 73.2 in his last three games say otherwise. Maybe he's just in a slump. Or maybe the first three teams they beat are really bad. You can take a couple of games from any QB and make them look less than great. Look at career winning percentage. Dak is second only to Brady. He also is 1 win away from equalling the playoff wins of Romo in a fraction of time. You guys are gonna keep on and its gonna be back to the Quincy Carter days around here. What is crazy is many pundits and scouts etc go by QBR ratings. Here you go. http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbrAlso here are Watson's last 3 games since you want him here in Dallas. Don't get too excited over that 158.3 cause Dak had one too earlier this season. 75.3 77.5 158.3..
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Re: Cowboys vs. Jets - Official thread
[Re: silvers]
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10/14/19 08:03 PM
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Cowboys lost 3 games by a total of 14 points. I ain't hangin them out to dry just yet. I think the Giants started out 3-5 the year they won the Super Bowl. Only thing that concerns me about Dak is him getting hurt from blitzes, OL needs to step up with their pass blocking.
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Re: Cowboys vs. Jets - Official thread
[Re: fouzman]
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10/14/19 08:03 PM
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tech
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4 09/29 @ NO L 10-12 1 1 22 33 66.7 223 6.8 0 1 1 11 73.2 1 7 7.0 0 -- -- 5 10/06 GB L 24-34 1 1 27 44 61.4 463 10.5 2 3 3 22 83.8 4 27 6.8 0 -- -- 6 10/13 @ NYJ L 22-24 1 1 28 40 70.0 277 6.9 0 0 1 8 89.3 3 11 3.7 1 -- --
Passer rating of 89.3, 83. 08 and 73.2 in his last three games say otherwise. Maybe he's just in a slump. Or maybe the first three teams they beat are really bad. Patrick Mahomes QB rating....10/13=56.4 10/06-48.5 09/29=79.9 09/22=79.5 I guess Dak beats Mahomes?
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Re: Cowboys vs. Jets - Official thread
[Re: tech]
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10/14/19 08:06 PM
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4 09/29 @ NO L 10-12 1 1 22 33 66.7 223 6.8 0 1 1 11 73.2 1 7 7.0 0 -- -- 5 10/06 GB L 24-34 1 1 27 44 61.4 463 10.5 2 3 3 22 83.8 4 27 6.8 0 -- -- 6 10/13 @ NYJ L 22-24 1 1 28 40 70.0 277 6.9 0 0 1 8 89.3 3 11 3.7 1 -- --
Passer rating of 89.3, 83. 08 and 73.2 in his last three games say otherwise. Maybe he's just in a slump. Or maybe the first three teams they beat are really bad. Patrick Mahomes QB rating....10/13=56.4 10/06-48.5 09/29=79.9 09/22=79.5 I guess Dak beats Mahomes? KC has lost back to back games too. .hit happens.
I am a Senager. (Senior teenager) I have everything that I wanted as a teenager, only 50 years later. I get an allowance every month. I have PU truck and a bass boat, I am blessed. Conscience never acquits, it either accuses or excuses.
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Re: Cowboys vs. Jets - Official thread
[Re: silvers]
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10/14/19 08:41 PM
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txmasterpo
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FOUZ.....the fireman gets a nickle for every can of Campbell's soup that Dakota sells or something.....he has been arguing with me about Dak for three years....he is the same kid he was in 2016....same arm, maybe a little better reads, still throws the ball from a different base every other ball it seems. He is what he is.
I am leaning on this being a complete coaching loss....Darnold said in his presser today, "they just did what they do, and they do it every week. One high or two high, and they like to stop the run, so I knew I had to pass to have success....and we got it done."
Offense and Defense....they are what they are. When it works, it is great. When a team is good enough to take it away, they lose. They do not have the ability to play outside their own box.
Kick that field goal early and they likely win....that was coaching.
Hell I said yesterday to go compare ball for ball from him and Dak, placement, anticipation, time to deliver or get it out of his hand....I dare you.
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Re: Cowboys vs. Jets - Official thread
[Re: tech]
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10/14/19 08:44 PM
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txmasterpo
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4 09/29 @ NO L 10-12 1 1 22 33 66.7 223 6.8 0 1 1 11 73.2 1 7 7.0 0 -- -- 5 10/06 GB L 24-34 1 1 27 44 61.4 463 10.5 2 3 3 22 83.8 4 27 6.8 0 -- -- 6 10/13 @ NYJ L 22-24 1 1 28 40 70.0 277 6.9 0 0 1 8 89.3 3 11 3.7 1 -- --
Passer rating of 89.3, 83. 08 and 73.2 in his last three games say otherwise. Maybe he's just in a slump. Or maybe the first three teams they beat are really bad. Patrick Mahomes QB rating....10/13=56.4 10/06-48.5 09/29=79.9 09/22=79.5 I guess Dak beats Mahomes? Mahomes lost the last two and almost lost the two before those.....I think he is generational compared to Dak, but he is having issues at the moment.
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Re: Cowboys vs. Jets - Official thread
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10/14/19 08:48 PM
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Mark Perry
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FOUZ.....the fireman gets a nickle for every can of Campbell's soup that Dakota sells or something.....he has been arguing with me about Dak for three years....he is the same kid he was in 2016....same arm, maybe a little better reads, still throws the ball from a different base every other ball it seems. He is what he is.
I am leaning on this being a complete coaching loss....Darnold said in his presser today, "they just did what they do, and they do it every week. One high or two high, and they like to stop the run, so I knew I had to pass to have success....and we got it done.
Hell I said yesterday to go compare ball for ball from him and Dak, placement, anticipation, time to deliver or get it out of his hand....I dare you. You said this defense was special so there's that..... ..since you are praising Darnold take into account he was throwing against a very weal secondary yesterday. As for Dak for a guy with a rag arm and no ability he sure seems to win a lot of games and puts up some good numbers. I mean look at Goff and that 78yds he threw for testerday....look at Mayfiels with his 402 career INTs already....look at Mariota and Winston. Cowboys better run out and draft them a 1st round QB. Ya'll can have the stats, I'll take heart, leadership and high winning percentage over who throws a prettier siral.
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