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Re: Matt Lauer Deal [Re: Duck_Hunter] #13307319 10/10/19 01:52 PM
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She maybe getting in too late to be in the money. I think he may already be picked clean.


She made the allegations years ago but her name just became public this week because Ronan Farrow is writing a book about it.


It is not uncommon for accusations to go unknown for years after the event until someone else makes a claim or in this case a book.


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Re: Matt Lauer Deal [Re: Jpurdue] #13307336 10/10/19 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDozer66
Originally Posted by Duck_Hunter
Originally Posted by HasBen
She maybe getting in too late to be in the money. I think he may already be picked clean.


She made the allegations years ago but her name just became public this week because Ronan Farrow is writing a book about it.


It is not uncommon for accusations to go unknown for years after the event until someone else makes a claim or in this case a book.


Is it common for a person who was raped to continue to seek out their rapist for further sexual relations and romantic involvement for many months after the fact?

I don't know what happened in the room. I haven't followed the story very closely. If the woman was actually raped, that's horrible. It's mighty tough for me to reconcile her behavior though. I wish adults could be adults and report things when they happen. This whole waiting 5 years and then claiming, "he was Dracula and had control of my mind" thing is hogwash in my opinion.


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Re: Matt Lauer Deal [Re: BigDozer66] #13307461 10/10/19 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDozer66
Originally Posted by Duck_Hunter
Originally Posted by HasBen
She maybe getting in too late to be in the money. I think he may already be picked clean.


She made the allegations years ago but her name just became public this week because Ronan Farrow is writing a book about it.


It is not uncommon for accusations to go unknown for years after the event until someone else makes a claim or in this case a book.

Originally Posted by BigDozer66
Originally Posted by Duck_Hunter
Originally Posted by HasBen
She maybe getting in too late to be in the money. I think he may already be picked clean.


She made the allegations years ago but her name just became public this week because Ronan Farrow is writing a book about it.


It is not uncommon for accusations to go unknown for years after the event until someone else makes a claim or in this case a book.


She was interviewed for the book, which is about the Harvey Weinstein saga, but also includes fallout from that due to the #metoo movement, including the Matt Lauer deal.

https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/matt-lauer-rape-nbc-ronan-farrow-book-catch-kill-1203364485/


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Re: Matt Lauer Deal [Re: Jpurdue] #13307480 10/10/19 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jpurdue
Originally Posted by BigDozer66
Originally Posted by Duck_Hunter
Originally Posted by HasBen
She maybe getting in too late to be in the money. I think he may already be picked clean.


She made the allegations years ago but her name just became public this week because Ronan Farrow is writing a book about it.


It is not uncommon for accusations to go unknown for years after the event until someone else makes a claim or in this case a book.


Is it common for a person who was raped to continue to seek out their rapist for further sexual relations and romantic involvement for many months after the fact?

I don't know what happened in the room. I haven't followed the story very closely. If the woman was actually raped, that's horrible. It's mighty tough for me to reconcile her behavior though. I wish adults could be adults and report things when they happen. This whole waiting 5 years and then claiming, "he was Dracula and had control of my mind" thing is hogwash in my opinion.


I’m not defending her or sticking up for her or anything, but she claims it was a decision made because of his control and power at her company. I would say it’s not uncommon for battered women to stay in abusive relationships, and I’m sure she wouldn’t be the first to stay continue to have a relationship with the man she says raped her, just like all of the women Weinstein and Cosby are alleged to have assaulted or raped didn’t go to police immediately because of the power they wielded.

I agree with you that waiting or continuing to associate or even stay in a relationship with someone who is abusing them is hard to reconcile, but I’ve never been raped.

https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/matt-lauer-rape-denial-letter-1203364695/

That link and the one I posted above details the book, her allegations and his response.


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Re: Matt Lauer Deal [Re: Jpurdue] #13307488 10/10/19 03:41 PM
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Hes done


He has been done.

I dont even look at women at work. If you have any position of power or manager people in any way you have to keep your nose 100% clean. If you do not you will not make it in management.

Almost every male manager I have seen fired was because they were not appropriate with women in the workplace.


Agree Dan. I basically follow the Mike Pence strategy. Sadly, it takes a little of the "humanness" out of interactions, but it's not worth the risk anymore.


It does take out some of that "humanness". But you have to be careful and even a hint of impropriety can cost your job. I have seen it many times. Even when it was very much consensual and there was not a direct reporting relationship I have seen managers terminated.

HR says stuff like, it cannot truly be consensual because you are (fill in a title, VP, SVP whatever) and she is an admin. or customer service rep etc. So she felt pressure just based on your position...if she knew it or not. So yeah.... with logic like that being preached, I dont hug, I don't stare or leer.

I do not have serious performance conversations (written warnings, final warnings, terminations) without another female member of management in the room. At the bank I worked with a guy, another manager, who had a female in an office and was putting her on a final warning. She later claimed he said for oral sex he would rip up the warning and it never happened... otherwise she would likely lose her job. Thats what she said. He swears she made that 100% up. I was not, and still am not sure who was telling the truth but he was fired the next day. Just on her word vs. his.

I can tell half a dozen stories just like that... and in each the man is fired. Even if seemed to be a 50/50 thing. They just wont take the risk of keeping the male manager on. At least at the bank it was like that. The new company is much more lax but still... rubber hit the road the outcome would be the same I am sure.

Wont find old Dan in that situation. And Matt [censored] Lauer, the goofball sleaze should have better known better. I dont know if this new allegation is true or what. But he did plenty he admitted to so f him.

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I can't stand the guy, but her initial encounter has some holes in it. She said she went back to his hotel room a second time and while discussing anal, and when she was about to tell him she was a no go, he slipped it in. Then she continued to see him for more. Something doesn't add up here. Why were her drawers off so he could continue as she said he did? I would imagine someone who was raped would not go back for more, maybe it is me.

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Originally Posted by Duck_Hunter


I agree with you that waiting or continuing to associate or even stay in a relationship with someone who is abusing them is hard to reconcile, but I’ve never been raped.



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Originally Posted by BlueNitro
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I agree with you that waiting or continuing to associate or even stay in a relationship with someone who is abusing them is hard to reconcile, but I’ve never been raped.



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Originally Posted by BlueNitro
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I agree with you that waiting or continuing to associate or even stay in a relationship with someone who is abusing them is hard to reconcile, but I’ve never been raped.



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Re: Matt Lauer Deal [Re: BlueNitro] #13307981 10/11/19 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueNitro
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I agree with you that waiting or continuing to associate or even stay in a relationship with someone who is abusing them is hard to reconcile, but I’ve never been raped.



Davedave wants to know what you are doing for lunch.


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Re: Matt Lauer Deal [Re: Jpurdue] #13307987 10/11/19 01:21 AM
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Unlike Lauer he used lube?

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Lauer is a complete 2 faced POS. About 2 weeks before it came out on him, he grilled Bill O’Reilly about sexual harrasment and treated him like scum of the earth.

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Originally Posted by BlueNitro
Originally Posted by Duck_Hunter


I agree with you that waiting or continuing to associate or even stay in a relationship with someone who is abusing them is hard to reconcile, but I’ve never been raped.



Davedave wants to know what you are doing for lunch.

Davedave needs to conserve his energy, aren't you two fishing for like 1.9 million bucks this weekend? Good luck out there!

Re: Matt Lauer Deal [Re: redskeet100] #13308009 10/11/19 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by redskeet100
I can't stand the guy, but her initial encounter has some holes in it. She said she went back to his hotel room a second time and while discussing anal, and when she was about to tell him she was a no go, he slipped it in. Then she continued to see him for more. Something doesn't add up here. Why were her drawers off so he could continue as she said he did? I would imagine someone who was raped would not go back for more, maybe it is me.


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