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Re: Is this where we are heading in the fishing world? [Re: Rayzor] #13294809 09/27/19 02:15 PM
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Carl Jocumsen won the recent BASS Elite tourney. He only weighed in 6 pounds the second day as he said his Humminbird 360 broke and he didn't know where to cast after it went down. So is this where we are headed? We don't cast unless we see a fish on our graph first?


Did he simply not know where to fish or quit fishing altogether?

He did not quit fishing. He was fishing very specific trees. He just didn't know where to cast without 360

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Re: Is this where we are heading in the fishing world? [Re: Champion1] #13294810 09/27/19 02:16 PM
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the funny thing is that on MLF small fish are caught with elect. but most bigger fish are caught old school.go figure


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Re: Is this where we are heading in the fishing world? [Re: Champion1] #13294815 09/27/19 02:23 PM
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lol the cost of bass fishing with all the bells and whistles is staggering anymore .It has turned into a rich mans game .I used to think golf was a rich mans game .Bassin can cost way more than golf


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Re: Is this where we are heading in the fishing world? [Re: Champion1] #13294834 09/27/19 02:39 PM
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It's been headed this direction for a long time. Shoot, before too long, we will be able to cast from our Iphones without even having a rod in our hand! roflmao

Re: Is this where we are heading in the fishing world? [Re: andy52887] #13294872 09/27/19 03:06 PM
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So Buda13 we only need to post if we agree? What fun is that lol


Thats not what I said... if you dont agree post your point without insulting everyone else that doesn't share your view.
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Re: Is this where we are heading in the fishing world? [Re: Champion1] #13294899 09/27/19 03:21 PM
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The irony here is palpable. Complaining about technology while using the internet and computer or smartphone to do so. You gonna paddle your boat to your spot to? Because, rest assured your engine is running on computers boards as well. Or how about your reels? You think those just get widdled out of wood and then put into production? Technology pushes us forward, but also brings new complications. Those fish don't give a crud what you have on your boat. At the end of the day you still have to catch the fish.

Re: Is this where we are heading in the fishing world? [Re: J.H.S.] #13294901 09/27/19 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh Seale
Do you need to have that type of equipment if you want to make a living in the Elite Series? Possibly. Do you need to have that kind of technology when competing in tournaments like Champs, TTT or any other smaller weekend trails? Absolutely not. Some people need the extra help to find and catch fish. Some don't. Most people who have all that stuff who aren't making a living fishing have it because they can afford it. It would be asinine to think you are a better fisherman than someone because you have it, and ridiculous to think you can't compete if you don't.


Well said.

Re: Is this where we are heading in the fishing world? [Re: Champion1] #13294918 09/27/19 03:42 PM
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Live and let live. Nobody is stopping anyone from making a "purists" tournament trail or tourney or division. I would love to participate in one personally, but I don't think that we should limit what others can do just because of our opinions.

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Re: Is this where we are heading in the fishing world? [Re: NELA Bassguy] #13294923 09/27/19 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NELA Bassguy
Live and let live. Nobody is stopping anyone from making a "purists" tournament trail or tourney or division. I would love to participate in one personally, but I don't think that we should limit what others can do just because of our opinions.

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Re: Is this where we are heading in the fishing world? [Re: Champion1] #13294937 09/27/19 03:59 PM
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Even more ironic, when the first flasher was used, the fisherman of that era had this same conversation. Then graphs came about, GPS, side imaging and so on. All changed fishing and moved it forward. All had doubters and haters. It's just fishing at the end of the day. Some use guides who tell you exactly what to fish, where and how. Some have private lakes that you can catch 10lb bass with a shoe consistently, then brag on it. If you want to compete then you need to have and know how to use the latest tools. If you just want to go catch some fish, you don't need the latest tools. There have always been fisherman that had the drive and the financial ability to learn and utilized the latest technology. More power to them.

Re: Is this where we are heading in the fishing world? [Re: Champion1] #13294945 09/27/19 04:05 PM
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What about the Alabama Rig? Was outlawed by most tournaments because if catches to many fish. I don't understand that, if everyone can use them, why outlaw it? Isn't that the same issue everyone has with electronics? Same conversation about $25 Chatterbaits. When the original Chatterbait was introduced it was selling for $100+ on ebay. Now you can get them for $3. Does a $25 chatterbait catch that many more fish than a $3 chatterbait? I don't know, maybe. Should they not outlaw the $25 chatterbait then? Should they have outlawed the chatterbait when it first arrived and commanded a $100 bill? Senko's, first year they came out if you weren't throwing a Senko you were getting beat in tournaments. Who spent a $1 at that time on 1 piece of plastic that might catch 2 fish before it was lost? When Lucky Craft baits were hot, a normal jerkbait was around $4, Pointers were $15, and fisherman bought everyone they could.

If you want to and have the ability financially to buy the $25 Chatterbait, spend 10K on electronics, 100K on a fully rigged bass boat, more power to you. If you know how to use them, you probably have an advantage over someone that doesn't have them or has them and doesn't know how to use them. I have some of those things, more than I need. I like catching bass. At the end of the day I am not competing against other fisherman per say, I am competing against the bass.

Tournaments show you what was available on a given day if you unlocked the days puzzle. If your good, then you are the one that unlocks it more times than other anglers. The tools that other anglers use to unlock the puzzle are part of that. So if a hydro-wave was needed that day to fire up schools of bass, you don't have a hydro-wave, maybe you invest in one. It may not work the next tournament, it might not ever work for you. If catching bass is important to you and you think a hydro-wave is the best way to catch bass at times, you probably will figure out a way to get one. The way bass fishing has been for what the last 50-60 years?

Re: Is this where we are heading in the fishing world? [Re: Champion1] #13294946 09/27/19 04:07 PM
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I don't see anyone on the PGA tour using hickory shafts...


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Re: Is this where we are heading in the fishing world? [Re: over the hill @PK] #13295003 09/27/19 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Butch @Hubbard creek
the funny thing is that on MLF small fish are caught with elect. but most bigger fish are caught old school.go figure



That has more to do with time than style. Especially in the cup events. It simply takes longer to find structure that you can't see with your eyes. Spending hours graphing in a cup event will very rarely pay off. That stuff has to be done in practice, which they don't have. I will agree that the deep bite wasn't a big player in the MLF Bass Pro tour this year either. But it will be in the future under different conditions and on different lakes.

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Originally Posted by Tx Tree Grower
Originally Posted by Butch @Hubbard creek
the funny thing is that on MLF small fish are caught with elect. but most bigger fish are caught old school.go figure



That has more to do with time than style. Especially in the cup events. It simply takes longer to find structure that you can't see with your eyes. Spending hours graphing in a cup event will very rarely pay off. That stuff has to be done in practice, which they don't have. I will agree that the deep bite wasn't a big player in the MLF Bass Pro tour this year either. But it will be in the future under different conditions and on different lakes.

I don't see them going to places where the deep bite will be a factor. They would probably garner about 10 minutes in penalties trying to fizz a fish with their stupid rules lol.

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