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Why a shaky head?
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08/26/19 12:52 PM
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fivebites
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A buddy of mine regularly fishes a big worm in deep water (over 20 feet) and uses a large shaky head rather than a Texas rig? He says the shaky "stands the worm up". Truth? I can't imagine it would do any different. I tried it out in my pool and I'm not seeing it.
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Re: Why a shaky head?
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08/26/19 01:15 PM
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dimitri
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bottom composition plays a big part imo but once the water reaches 90 degrees i seem to get more bites on a shakey head.
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Re: Why a shaky head?
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08/26/19 01:28 PM
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With a shaky head there is a chance (mostly with the flat head designs) it will stand up..........with a Trig there is zero chance. I use a Trig in most situations due to there being grass or wood around (the shaky head I use hangs up too much). If it is rock, clay or gravel with little to no wood, I have a shaky head on. But like most things fishing, confidence in what you're throwing means a lot.
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Re: Why a shaky head?
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08/26/19 02:33 PM
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Cole P
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A buddy of mine regularly fishes a big worm in deep water (over 20 feet) and uses a large shaky head rather than a Texas rig? He says the shaky "stands the worm up". Truth? I can't imagine it would do any different. I tried it out in my pool and I'm not seeing it. Think outside the box. A shakey head has a hook shank that is inside a spherical or oblong lead head. A TX rig has a bullet weight slip-type sinker. This is going to give you way different actions and application uses. A TX rig is typically used the flip, pitch, and drag, while a shakey head is primarily used for casting and dragging on the bottom. Can they be used interchangeably in many situations? Sure. Can the be used interchangeably in all situations? No.
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Re: Why a shaky head?
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08/26/19 09:30 PM
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Also try using a floating worm if your trying to get it to stand up. Xcite Maximus is a good one IMO. Not all shakey heads stand up.
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Re: Why a shaky head?
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08/26/19 10:25 PM
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Cole P
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You also need to keep in mind how they act differently once you hook up on a bass. With a TX rig, the bullet weight is able to slide away from the hook. With a shakey head (or jig) because the weight is permanently attached to the hook shank, it can give the bass more leverage to throw the hook.
Think about it, if you had a hook in your face and you had to shake it off, do you think it would be easier to shake off a weightless hook or a hook with weight that is permanently attached? The weight would give you leverage to shake it loose.
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Re: Why a shaky head?
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08/26/19 10:28 PM
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solid informative reply thank you
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Re: Why a shaky head?
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08/26/19 11:27 PM
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I don't throw one, but I have heard very few shaky heads actually stand up, especially with a long worm on it. I heard David Dudley say that almost no shaky heads stand up, of course he was pimping his brand of head and swears it stands up. Every time I try a large shaky head and big worm, I get it hung up and break it off, so I stick to other techniques.
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Re: Why a shaky head?
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08/26/19 11:45 PM
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There are a couple of brands out there that are a heavy shaky head with a flat bottom. Xcite, Yum pumpkin ed, and 6th sense. I did a pool test with large worms on the Yum shaky head and the Xcite, and the V&M large straight tail worms stood up the best. The Yum and the Strike King fell over every time. These are large 10 inch straight tail worms.
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Re: Why a shaky head?
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08/26/19 11:48 PM
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You also need to keep in mind how they act differently once you hook up on a bass. With a TX rig, the bullet weight is able to slide away from the hook. With a shakey head (or jig) because the weight is permanently attached to the hook shank, it can give the bass more leverage to throw the hook.
Think about it, if you had a hook in your face and you had to shake it off, do you think it would be easier to shake off a weightless hook or a hook with weight that is permanently attached? The weight would give you leverage to shake it loose. Not that much if you get a good hook set. I don't think you fish a shaky head much. Am I right? I haven't noticed a bass throwing a shaky head any easier than a Tx. rig.
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Re: Why a shaky head?
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08/27/19 12:53 AM
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You also need to keep in mind how they act differently once you hook up on a bass. With a TX rig, the bullet weight is able to slide away from the hook. With a shakey head (or jig) because the weight is permanently attached to the hook shank, it can give the bass more leverage to throw the hook.
Think about it, if you had a hook in your face and you had to shake it off, do you think it would be easier to shake off a weightless hook or a hook with weight that is permanently attached? The weight would give you leverage to shake it loose. Not that much if you get a good hook set. I don't think you fish a shaky head much. Am I right? I haven't noticed a bass throwing a shaky head any easier than a Tx. rig. Not to be argumentative, but Cole's comments lead me to believe he's fished shakey heads quite a bit. Spot on, IMO. Btw, I couldn't agree with you more on the Yum and 6th sense. 6th sense is probably my favorite of the 2.
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Re: Why a shaky head?
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08/27/19 02:14 AM
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A buddy of mine regularly fishes a big worm in deep water (over 20 feet) and uses a large shaky head rather than a Texas rig? He says the shaky "stands the worm up". Truth? I can't imagine it would do any different. I tried it out in my pool and I'm not seeing it. https://youtu.be/0faa5flSTN4Just watch that. It will show you exactly what your asking.
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Re: Why a shaky head?
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08/27/19 12:53 PM
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fivebites
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A buddy of mine regularly fishes a big worm in deep water (over 20 feet) and uses a large shaky head rather than a Texas rig? He says the shaky "stands the worm up". Truth? I can't imagine it would do any different. I tried it out in my pool and I'm not seeing it. https://youtu.be/0faa5flSTN4Just watch that. It will show you exactly what your asking. Nice Chance! Just about what I thought when I tried them in my pool. Unless you're working it pretty fast, they'll fall over just like a T rig. I do like the action of them moving pretty fast, but always thought a shaky head was as little movement of the bait as possible. Live and learn. I'll give it a shot. After my last trip out with one dink in 4 hours I'm ready to try anything!
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Re: Why a shaky head?
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08/27/19 01:04 PM
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senko9S
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the plastic makes it stand, not the head. I don't use jig heads or floating worms btw.
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Re: Why a shaky head?
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08/27/19 03:22 PM
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I think shaky heads work better than Trig at times, because you can detect the bite better (weight directly attached to hook) and tend to fish them slower on lighter line.
Agree, they don't actually stand up; but, when slowly dragged and stopped, they have a different rise and slow fall of the soft plastic you can't get with a Trig.
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