texasfishingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
dinkprozac, AaronHawkFishing, MethodMix4Me, Fisher81, Blake Schroeder
111443 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
TexDawg 91,959
hopalong 82,146
Pilothawk 78,837
John175☮ 73,703
JDavis7873® 67,397
Derek 🐝 63,141
Bigbob_FTW 59,910
Tritonman 58,776
Mark Perry 57,230
facebook
Forum Statistics
Forums60
Topics762,874
Posts9,592,569
Members111,443
Most Online36,273
Jan 23rd, 2013
Print Thread
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
Bait Tank: Build or Buy #13236206 08/05/19 03:25 PM
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 103
Boomerbrewer Offline OP
Outdoorsman
OP Offline
Outdoorsman
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 103
After watching my hard earned shad die in my boats baitwell in an hour this weekend I have decided that I need to do better. My baitwell is oval about 18 gallons and got completely clogged up with scales. My dilemma is to buy a tank or build my own. When I say build i am not taking about cutting up a barrel and adding a pump/filter. I would design and fabricate it from sheet PVC or HDPE and cut the parts on my CNC. Double wall with insulation. I'll probably spend 400 or more on the project so I won't save that much on doing it myself. I do like a project and it would be nice to have the tank fit my boat exactly. I have looked at many of the designs out there and it seems pretty straightforward. I also know that a lot of experience and trial and error goes into the design of these tanks that I don`t have. Other than round, insulation, filtration and oxygenation is there some secret to bait tanks? I would love to hear from anyone who has done DIY and commercial tank comparisons. Is DIY worth it?


2013 Glasstream 221 Center Console 150 Merc.
Wet Rooster Jigs Fishing Super Store
Re: Bait Tank: Build or Buy [Re: Boomerbrewer] #13236234 08/05/19 03:43 PM
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 471
T
TGalyon1 Offline
Angler
Offline
Angler
T
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 471
This is what I just did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RvvsDS4Cgo&t=11s

I don't fish enough to justify paying $500 to $600 for a tank. I can move it where ever I need in the boat or truck. I have around $150 in this. I use bottles of frozen water to cool the tank down.

I did change a few things. I put both the light and pump on a switch. I did not cut holes in the pump housing I drilled 1/4 to keep bait out. I moved the door back and put a piece of cutting board in front to cut bait up and I put a drain with a hose adapter in the bottom to empty the tank. I also have a 400 GPH pump to pump water in. I also fabricated fish aquarium charcoal into a filter along with a few other things.

Re: Bait Tank: Build or Buy [Re: Boomerbrewer] #13236377 08/05/19 05:25 PM
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 697
R
RespectTheFish Online Content
Pro Angler
Online Content
Pro Angler
R
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 697
I like your diy baittank. Good idea!

Here’s my diy baittank for another idea to consider. It’s probably $100-$150

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MEMogBRo9Kg

Ultimately, buying a nice tank like blue water baittank or shad shack is worth it if you get serious about it but yes it’s $500-$700.


Clay

RespectTheFish YouTube Channel

Re: Bait Tank: Build or Buy [Re: TGalyon1] #13236408 08/05/19 05:57 PM
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 103
Boomerbrewer Offline OP
Outdoorsman
OP Offline
Outdoorsman
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 103
Originally Posted by TGalyon1
This is what I just did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RvvsDS4Cgo&t=11s

I don't fish enough to justify paying $500 to $600 for a tank. I can move it where ever I need in the boat or truck. I have around $150 in this. I use bottles of frozen water to cool the tank down.

I did change a few things. I put both the light and pump on a switch. I did not cut holes in the pump housing I drilled 1/4 to keep bait out. I moved the door back and put a piece of cutting board in front to cut bait up and I put a drain with a hose adapter in the bottom to empty the tank. I also have a 400 GPH pump to pump water in. I also fabricated fish aquarium charcoal into a filter along with a few other things.


Those are pretty nice tanks. About how many gallons is that?


2013 Glasstream 221 Center Console 150 Merc.
Re: Bait Tank: Build or Buy [Re: RespectTheFish] #13236409 08/05/19 05:58 PM
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 103
Boomerbrewer Offline OP
Outdoorsman
OP Offline
Outdoorsman
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 103
Clay, I caught your video and the one with your newer tank.. I was seriously considering going with the moeller tank and adding insulation. There is an outfit that is already using those for a base (striper soup I think). How was your luck with the DIY setup vs your new tank?


2013 Glasstream 221 Center Console 150 Merc.
Re: Bait Tank: Build or Buy [Re: Boomerbrewer] #13236518 08/05/19 07:18 PM
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 471
T
TGalyon1 Offline
Angler
Offline
Angler
T
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 471
I like your diy baittank. Good idea!


This was not my idea, nor is it my video. Don't want the guy thinking I am taking credit for his hard work. (but I did us it) I found it on youtube along with other video . My tank hold about 40 gallons of water. I just got it put together yesterday. I have made tanks in the past but with no filter. We will see how it works. I have a 20 gallon made into the boa without a filter. It work good for minnows but shad only hold about 10 or so.

Re: Bait Tank: Build or Buy [Re: Boomerbrewer] #13236549 08/05/19 07:38 PM
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 697
R
RespectTheFish Online Content
Pro Angler
Online Content
Pro Angler
R
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 697
Originally Posted by Boomerbrewer
Clay, I caught your video and the one with your newer tank.. I was seriously considering going with the moeller tank and adding insulation. There is an outfit that is already using those for a base (striper soup I think). How was your luck with the DIY setup vs your new tank?


Overall its like comparing a Yeti cooler to a cheap Igloo cooler. It is obviously better in every way. Worth the extra money? I think so, some would disagree. Can you get by with the smaller, cheaper version? To some degree yes and perhaps the best way to start out as it is maybe less than $200 versus about $600-700 by the time the blue water bait tank is at your door.

Yes sir striper soup is what I watched on youtube and was introduced to the Moeller through one of their videos. I didn't like how they had probably a 4 inch big pvc pipe taking up half the small 23 gallon tank so I made my own version as you saw in my video. They are good tanks and my filter I made was sufficient for numbers of shad which the tank could hold. I got by with my tank for a year or two before I decided to upgrade to a blue water bait tank.

How they compare? Well, frankly, the blue water bait tank makes keeping the temperature down about as easy as it can get I imagine. Once I add a few frozen milk jugs in the water I'll get the water to mid to upper 70's and that's good enough for keeping over a hundred shad alive over night versus in the summer the Moeller likely would be very very difficult to control temperature but with insulation of some sort it may help.. The filtration system is much better in the blue water as well so I am not afraid to catch shad and throw them directly into the tank immediately in the summer rather than put them in a 5 gallon bucket for a few minutes to slim and scale up that water first which is a must if you had the Moeller due to the filtration system I built. Fewer filter changes required and sometimes not necessary during a single trip with the blue water. Depends on your budget. You can always start off with the Moeller and upgrade if and when you feel fit. I just like the peace of mind knowing I can catch bait and leave them in my blue water bait tank over night with no problems.


Clay

RespectTheFish YouTube Channel

Re: Bait Tank: Build or Buy [Re: RespectTheFish] #13237108 08/06/19 03:45 AM
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 507
scubaarchery Online Content
Pro Angler
Online Content
Pro Angler
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 507
I think it depends on what you are going to do. I have a Moeller 30 gal tank, and a keep alive filter/ aeration system. In the heat of summer, I put in 20 gal of water, 10 lb of ice and a cup of pool salt. I can keep 80 shad alive for four hours and can add a frozen 2 liter to keep em frisky. I do put them in a bucket for a bit then transfer them to the tank. There is no way I could catch them and keep them overnight and I can only keep about half that number of small gizzards alive...


Catch more hybrids, sand-bass and striper with the Thump’emup Thumper!
www.thumpemupfishing.com
Thumpemupfishingchannel@gmail.com
Thump’emupfishimgchannel on YouTube
Re: Bait Tank: Build or Buy [Re: Boomerbrewer] #13238035 08/06/19 09:54 PM
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 5
R
Roger Grayline Bait Tanks Offline
Green Horn
Offline
Green Horn
R
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 5
I have a used 30 Gal Grayline that I am Selling for a costumer very lightly used nice clean tank has blue interior and removable filter box $300.00

Re: Bait Tank: Build or Buy [Re: Roger Grayline Bait Tanks] #13238580 08/07/19 11:22 AM
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 103
Boomerbrewer Offline OP
Outdoorsman
OP Offline
Outdoorsman
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 103
Originally Posted by Roger Grayline Bait Tanks
I have a used 30 Gal Grayline that I am Selling for a costumer very lightly used nice clean tank has blue interior and removable filter box $300.00


That a good deal and if I was closer I would probably jump on it.


2013 Glasstream 221 Center Console 150 Merc.
Re: Bait Tank: Build or Buy [Re: Boomerbrewer] #13238610 08/07/19 11:55 AM
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 103
Boomerbrewer Offline OP
Outdoorsman
OP Offline
Outdoorsman
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 103
I really appreciate the notes on how well the different tanks work. I really think I need something insulated so at this point I think I am going to try and build. After looking at the materials and new plastic welder I would need, I am not sure it is going to be much cheaper than buying a new tank. But I need a project to keep me off the streets, and it would be nice if it fit my boat just right.

I plan to cnc the base and lid from 1/2 in hdpe marine board and grove them to accept a double layer of 1/4 hdpe (maybe 3/16 or 1/8 if I can find it) material for the tank walls with about an inch of airgap between them. I'll plastic weld them together. The gap can be filled with 2 part urethane foam. I like the designs with a separate compartment for the pump and filter. I will probably go with multiple filtering socks if I can find them. Any suggestions would be appreciated at this stage, especially concerning the wall thickness and filtration.


2013 Glasstream 221 Center Console 150 Merc.
Re: Bait Tank: Build or Buy [Re: Boomerbrewer] #13238933 08/07/19 03:53 PM
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 13
skint back Offline
Green Horn
Offline
Green Horn
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 13
I would think you could build it and drill a few strategic holes to fill it with the Great stuff insulating foam.

We built a round drink tub out of plastic utility tubs by stacking two of them with spacers, and filling with great stuff foam. Made a lid out of large white cutting boards we bought at Sams Club. It serves its purpose, its no yeti, but it works.

Re: Bait Tank: Build or Buy [Re: Boomerbrewer] #13240020 08/08/19 11:23 AM
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 103
Boomerbrewer Offline OP
Outdoorsman
OP Offline
Outdoorsman
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 103
I am looking at plastic suppliers and so far have found that 1/4 in is the thinnest marine hdpe board that I can locate. Are tank walls made by shad shack and blue water really this thick? It seems like it would be too heavy and expensive especially with foam in between.


2013 Glasstream 221 Center Console 150 Merc.
Re: Bait Tank: Build or Buy [Re: Boomerbrewer] #13242006 08/09/19 04:32 PM
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 471
T
TGalyon1 Offline
Angler
Offline
Angler
T
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 471
Originally Posted by Boomerbrewer
I am looking at plastic suppliers and so far have found that 1/4 in is the thinnest marine hdpe board that I can locate. Are tank walls made by shad shack and blue water really this thick? It seems like it would be too heavy and expensive especially with foam in between.



The tanks that I have had dealings with are about 1/16 inch or so, 1/4 would make it heavy I would think. But if you are not going to move it and weight is not a problem for your boat, then it would work.



Last edited by TGalyon1; 08/09/19 04:42 PM.
Re: Bait Tank: Build or Buy [Re: Boomerbrewer] #13248354 08/15/19 03:10 AM
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 367
B
bluesea112 Offline
Angler
Offline
Angler
B
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 367
I bought a moeller 40 gallon oval tank for $175. After buying a bilge pump and making a simple filter system I only had $225 invested in the entire set up. I fill the tank with tap water from home and treat it with a de-chlorinator I buy at Walmart for treating aquarium water. I also ad 4 cups of salt to the tank. After a recent fishing trip this summer I forgot to empty the bait tank when I got home. 4 days later I walked by the boat and heard the pump running in my bait tank. All of the shad were still alive and happy. You can't beat that for $225.

Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread


© 1998-2019 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3