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Re: MLF Angler Longevity
[Re: Sinkey]
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06/28/19 06:09 PM
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Mark Jones
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I think after 3 years about 50% will leave and fish other trails. Just my opinion. Unless they are somehow able to walk right back to BASS without qualifying and their entry fees are waived over there as well, nowhere near 50% will be leaving and likely not even 5%.
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Re: MLF Angler Longevity
[Re: befuddled]
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06/28/19 06:38 PM
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BBG920xp
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How many of you guys actually enjoy watching the best anglers in the world out there catching 50 fish for 60lbs? No disrespect meant but I had rather watch someone get 5 bites for 25+ lbs.
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Re: MLF Angler Longevity
[Re: BBG920xp]
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06/28/19 06:52 PM
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Dubee
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How many of you guys actually enjoy watching the best anglers in the world out there catching 50 fish for 60lbs? No disrespect meant but I had rather watch someone get 5 bites for 25+ lbs. I prefer BPT
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Re: MLF Angler Longevity
[Re: BBG920xp]
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06/28/19 06:56 PM
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Well, you can do that. There are formats to suit everyones needs. The jest of this post was the longevity of the anglers. I think MLF is here to stay. These guys that chose to go with MLF BPT were very well aware of the format. My opinion backed up with a few facts.
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Re: MLF Angler Longevity
[Re: Tubby]
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06/29/19 03:33 AM
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RedRaider3933
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Well, you can do that. There are formats to suit everyones needs. The jest of this post was the longevity of the anglers. I think MLF is here to stay. These guys that chose to go with MLF BPT were very well aware of the format. My opinion backed up with a few facts. While I agree the anglers are well taken care of on the BPT do you think the TV ratings will remain strong for multiple years? Yes, there is no denying that the TV exposure has been great for MLF and should be the same for BPT through these first few years. With that being said, the same old song and dance could possibly get stale just like many TV shows that hit the repeat button over and over. This is the main reason i see the BPT not lasting and the anglers having to go back to their roots. Sponsor dollars only go so far. Youve seen basically the exact same theme for every event. IMO people will get tired of it, ratings will drop, sponsors cut funding, then where does the prize money come from? Just doesnt seem sustainable to me.
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Re: MLF Angler Longevity
[Re: RedRaider3933]
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06/29/19 03:52 AM
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Mark Jones
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Well, you can do that. There are formats to suit everyones needs. The jest of this post was the longevity of the anglers. I think MLF is here to stay. These guys that chose to go with MLF BPT were very well aware of the format. My opinion backed up with a few facts. While I agree the anglers are well taken care of on the BPT do you think the TV ratings will remain strong for multiple years? Yes, there is no denying that the TV exposure has been great for MLF and should be the same for BPT through these first few years. With that being said, the same old song and dance could possibly get stale just like many TV shows that hit the repeat button over and over. This is the main reason i see the BPT not lasting and the anglers having to go back to their roots. Sponsor dollars only go so far. Youve seen basically the exact same theme for every event. IMO people will get tired of it, ratings will drop, sponsors cut funding, then where does the prize money come from? Just doesnt seem sustainable to me. You mean the same old song and dance like fishing for five fish for decades with the same theme at each event for decades? I'm so confused...
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Re: MLF Angler Longevity
[Re: Mark Jones]
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06/29/19 09:24 AM
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RedRaider3933
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Well, you can do that. There are formats to suit everyones needs. The jest of this post was the longevity of the anglers. I think MLF is here to stay. These guys that chose to go with MLF BPT were very well aware of the format. My opinion backed up with a few facts. While I agree the anglers are well taken care of on the BPT do you think the TV ratings will remain strong for multiple years? Yes, there is no denying that the TV exposure has been great for MLF and should be the same for BPT through these first few years. With that being said, the same old song and dance could possibly get stale just like many TV shows that hit the repeat button over and over. This is the main reason i see the BPT not lasting and the anglers having to go back to their roots. Sponsor dollars only go so far. Youve seen basically the exact same theme for every event. IMO people will get tired of it, ratings will drop, sponsors cut funding, then where does the prize money come from? Just doesnt seem sustainable to me. You mean the same old song and dance like fishing for five fish for decades with the same theme at each event for decades? I'm so confused... Thats pretty close to the response I expected. Im talking about drop shots, fairy wands, and 1.5 pounders being the winning pattern for 80% of the events. How much stock do you have in this thing?
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Re: MLF Angler Longevity
[Re: RedRaider3933]
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06/29/19 02:35 PM
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Dubee
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Well, you can do that. There are formats to suit everyones needs. The jest of this post was the longevity of the anglers. I think MLF is here to stay. These guys that chose to go with MLF BPT were very well aware of the format. My opinion backed up with a few facts. While I agree the anglers are well taken care of on the BPT do you think the TV ratings will remain strong for multiple years? Yes, there is no denying that the TV exposure has been great for MLF and should be the same for BPT through these first few years. With that being said, the same old song and dance could possibly get stale just like many TV shows that hit the repeat button over and over. This is the main reason i see the BPT not lasting and the anglers having to go back to their roots. Sponsor dollars only go so far. Youve seen basically the exact same theme for every event. IMO people will get tired of it, ratings will drop, sponsors cut funding, then where does the prize money come from? Just doesnt seem sustainable to me. You mean the same old song and dance like fishing for five fish for decades with the same theme at each event for decades? I'm so confused... Thats pretty close to the response I expected. Im talking about drop shots, fairy wands, and 1.5 pounders being the winning pattern for 80% of the events. How much stock do you have in this thing? Every time i watch. I see guys pitching, throwing spinnerbaits, bladed jigs, crankbaits and topwaters. Saying all they do is use a spinning rod and target small fish is just made up BS.
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Re: MLF Angler Longevity
[Re: RedRaider3933]
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06/29/19 03:05 PM
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Mark Jones
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Well, you can do that. There are formats to suit everyones needs. The jest of this post was the longevity of the anglers. I think MLF is here to stay. These guys that chose to go with MLF BPT were very well aware of the format. My opinion backed up with a few facts. While I agree the anglers are well taken care of on the BPT do you think the TV ratings will remain strong for multiple years? Yes, there is no denying that the TV exposure has been great for MLF and should be the same for BPT through these first few years. With that being said, the same old song and dance could possibly get stale just like many TV shows that hit the repeat button over and over. This is the main reason i see the BPT not lasting and the anglers having to go back to their roots. Sponsor dollars only go so far. Youve seen basically the exact same theme for every event. IMO people will get tired of it, ratings will drop, sponsors cut funding, then where does the prize money come from? Just doesnt seem sustainable to me. You mean the same old song and dance like fishing for five fish for decades with the same theme at each event for decades? I'm so confused... Thats pretty close to the response I expected. Im talking about drop shots, fairy wands, and 1.5 pounders being the winning pattern for 80% of the events. How much stock do you have in this thing? Lol, no stock, just pointing out that you're complaining about something getting stale and you have this other thing that hasn't evolved in forever. You are aware that the anglers and the executive team at MLF are free to make adjustments and have proven that they're willing to be creative and force change right? What makes you think this isn't going to evolve on some level if that's what they decide to do as a collective group? BPT isn't even a year old and everyone is arm chair quarterbacking it like nothing I've ever seen. Let it marinate man, it's a work in progress. Lastly, I can tell you from personal experience that for every one person who says they don't like it, there's ten who do. These anglers left their "roots" for a reason to join this platform.
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Re: MLF Angler Longevity
[Re: befuddled]
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06/29/19 03:19 PM
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RiveraTackleCo.
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Mark,
As long as the alternative "5 fish limit" is still around no one is forcing any type of change in regards to picking sides. It's just another option. That's what this country is about. While i respect your input, it always comes off as "dare to challenge me" type responses. We all know what you do for a living and that is to collect data, nothing more and nothing less. And you apply that methodology to the way you interact with everyone here. I completely understand that there is plenty of room for MLFBPT to grow as it is a "new" alternative than what's out there. It's new and it will create it's OWN lane not FORCE B.A.S.S to change it's format. What B.A.S.S did change was the way it treated it's customers and fans. That change needed to happen as the anglers spoke their mind regarding their decision to leave. That is the only changing force MLF BPT has done. Wish the best to all the trails out there. Thanks
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Re: MLF Angler Longevity
[Re: RiveraTackleCo.]
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06/29/19 07:38 PM
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Mark Jones
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Mark,
As long as the alternative "5 fish limit" is still around no one is forcing any type of change in regards to picking sides. It's just another option. That's what this country is about. While i respect your input, it always comes off as "dare to challenge me" type responses. We all know what you do for a living and that is to collect data, nothing more and nothing less. And you apply that methodology to the way you interact with everyone here. I completely understand that there is plenty of room for MLFBPT to grow as it is a "new" alternative than what's out there. It's new and it will create it's OWN lane not FORCE B.A.S.S to change it's format. What B.A.S.S did change was the way it treated it's customers and fans. That change needed to happen as the anglers spoke their mind regarding their decision to leave. That is the only changing force MLF BPT has done. Wish the best to all the trails out there. Thanks I have no problem with anyone's opinions and if they find my replies "challenging" then I guess that's ok, I'm not running for Mayor of the TFF. I'm not picking sides either, I've said 100 times I like ALL the formats and run an alternative format, so there's a little more in my bag than data, although we do data work from time to time. To be clear, I don't see five fish as an alternative in a 2019 world, I see big bass and catch and release as the alternatives as it relates to "today", however I think the sport is headed for a change long term and I'll either be right or wrong at some point in the future. That will play itself out over time. MLF's rise should give everyone some insight into where we are headed. In the meantime, neither you nor anyone else has to agree with me or buy into my point of view but you're likely going to hear from me on it.  
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Re: MLF Angler Longevity
[Re: Mark Jones]
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06/29/19 09:36 PM
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Tubby
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I like the way you think.
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Re: MLF Angler Longevity
[Re: RedRaider3933]
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06/29/19 10:21 PM
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SC-001
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Well, you can do that. There are formats to suit everyones needs. The jest of this post was the longevity of the anglers. I think MLF is here to stay. These guys that chose to go with MLF BPT were very well aware of the format. My opinion backed up with a few facts. While I agree the anglers are well taken care of on the BPT do you think the TV ratings will remain strong for multiple years? Yes, there is no denying that the TV exposure has been great for MLF and should be the same for BPT through these first few years. With that being said, the same old song and dance could possibly get stale just like many TV shows that hit the repeat button over and over. This is the main reason i see the BPT not lasting and the anglers having to go back to their roots. Sponsor dollars only go so far. Youve seen basically the exact same theme for every event. IMO people will get tired of it, ratings will drop, sponsors cut funding, then where does the prize money come from? Just doesnt seem sustainable to me. Who do you think gets better TV ratings, bassmaster at some obscure hour on ESPN2 or MLF on CBS network TV right before PGA golf on saturday afternoon like today... I can tell you
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Re: MLF Angler Longevity
[Re: SC-001]
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06/29/19 10:39 PM
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Mark Perry
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Well, you can do that. There are formats to suit everyones needs. The jest of this post was the longevity of the anglers. I think MLF is here to stay. These guys that chose to go with MLF BPT were very well aware of the format. My opinion backed up with a few facts. While I agree the anglers are well taken care of on the BPT do you think the TV ratings will remain strong for multiple years? Yes, there is no denying that the TV exposure has been great for MLF and should be the same for BPT through these first few years. With that being said, the same old song and dance could possibly get stale just like many TV shows that hit the repeat button over and over. This is the main reason i see the BPT not lasting and the anglers having to go back to their roots. Sponsor dollars only go so far. Youve seen basically the exact same theme for every event. IMO people will get tired of it, ratings will drop, sponsors cut funding, then where does the prize money come from? Just doesnt seem sustainable to me. Who do you think gets better TV ratings, bassmaster at some obscure hour on ESPN2 or MLF on CBS network TV right before PGA golf on saturday afternoon like today... I can tell you Yet you posted this earlier today on another MLF thread.... Didn't even realize until now they been doing the world championship CBS shows every saturday, missed the first 2, kinda surprised they have not been plugging it on MLF live.
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Re: MLF Angler Longevity
[Re: Tubby]
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06/29/19 11:16 PM
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Mark Jones
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I like the way you think. ditto lol
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