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White rock
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02/23/19 09:50 PM
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shiner bock
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Anyone test the waters in lower or upper white rock creek yet. I have found the sandies run earlier there than Rowlett
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Re: White rock
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02/26/19 06:59 PM
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Where's a good place to park to access white rock creek?
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Re: White rock
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02/27/19 03:29 AM
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I think that the bait fishermen catch them near the lawther Bridges, but I have caught them upstream all the way to the Walnut Hill, and Royal Lane Bridges on the fly rod. I think Carey used to catch them upstream also
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Re: White rock
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02/27/19 12:22 PM
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Fishbonz
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Where's a good place to park to access white rock creek? I would park right @ Skillman & Merriman but not right @ the corner and walk down under the Skillman bridge.
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Re: White rock
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02/27/19 12:34 PM
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steveiam
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Where's a good place to park to access white rock creek? I would park right @ Skillman & Merriman but not right @ the corner and walk down under the Skillman bridge. This^^^^^^^ There is parking on Merriman-
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Re: White rock
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02/27/19 05:35 PM
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TarponFly
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The sandies used to boil on the lake everyday. That stopped 4-5 years ago for an unknown reason. The population of sandies on this lake went from 100% to like 10% in my opinion. Id say the crappie are at 30% from five years ago. Construction of the loop 12 bridge making the creek access shallower, gill nets every year were a major issue, and the amount of people intercepting them in the known creek bend, have decimated the populations. I used to fish there from October till almost January and catch limits pretty much every day through the year. Now you can pretty much only limit one month out of the entire year before the winter temperatures come. I used to guide under the skill man bridge, catching limits of crappie every trip almost. But again, something happened to the population and they have not returned to that area since then.
Now to your main questions, the white bass run at White rock, is already over. You were correct the spawn happens before most creeks, as they spawned three weeks ago. It was only 2-3 weeks they were up there did their thing and went back to the lake. . Will another school come up? Possibly but I doubt it. This creek usually has the white bass spawning Run December through January sometime. By the end of February its definitely, usually, over.
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Re: White rock
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03/01/19 07:17 PM
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Aquiles
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I know it sounds like an old man telling stories of the good old days but I remember the good old day lol at the bottom of the spillway you would hold a net under the falls and your net would fill with shad in under a minute then you would walk down to the curve where the little island split off and you could catch sandy after sandy with those shad . I remember one year I was walking up on the spillway (yup you could do that then) looking for fools gold nuggets and a big old catfish washed over the spillway that was over 5 ft long . Not much left in that lake anymore I bet !
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Re: White rock
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03/01/19 08:41 PM
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I wonder why old days were better. One possibility is that we now have a lot more fishermen. Perhaps we should cut down daily possession limit and/or increase size limit.
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Re: White rock
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03/07/19 12:42 AM
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"Old School"
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We have a lot more people fishing and keeping everything they catch with no concerns of limits or under-sized fish. You go up a White Rock Creek and you have the gill nets.
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Re: White rock
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03/07/19 02:42 AM
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Its not the people who are following the rules who are hurting fish populations.
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Re: White rock
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03/12/19 02:40 PM
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Besides the gill netting Carey, white rock has suffered the effects of urban sprawl, in that the entire drainage corridor has experienced a massive boom over last 10 years. The effects of fertilizer runoff and the occasional oops, see below have definitely taken a toll. I fear similar fates for other feeder watersheds into ray Hubbard, Lewisville, and grapevine. I grew up directly on the creek I. West plano in the 70s and most definitely see a change in water quality . https://www.dmagazine.com/frontburn...aste-have-spilled-into-white-rock-creek/
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Re: White rock
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03/14/19 05:57 PM
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Aquiles
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Besides the gill netting Carey, white rock has suffered the effects of urban sprawl, in that the entire drainage corridor has experienced a massive boom over last 10 years. The effects of fertilizer runoff and the occasional oops, see below have definitely taken a toll. I fear similar fates for other feeder watersheds into ray Hubbard, Lewisville, and grapevine. I grew up directly on the creek I. West plano in the 70s and most definitely see a change in water quality . https://www.dmagazine.com/frontburn...aste-have-spilled-into-white-rock-creek/I really think your right and this is more due to this issue wasn't it just this past year that we had two or three accidents that poured waste water into White Rock Creek , and that not even counting the normal daily runoff of fertilizer that must come from the Arboretum and the rich folk that have to keep their lawns green in the Texas heat .
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Re: White rock
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03/14/19 09:00 PM
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TarponFly
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After the last spill, it killed every minnow and fish in the creek. I never saw one fish upstream of Skillman this winter.
But ever since they redid loop 12, that year was the year it slowed down
There used to be baby bass 1 to 2 pounds and tons of bluegills everywhere up there. And it still void of fish.
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Re: White rock
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03/25/19 12:57 PM
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I have only caught one sandie on the Rock in the last 5 years. And it was 4 inches long.
Not sure what happened to them. But something happened. Lakes been really odd the last few years. It needs a good dredging to start with... then maybe IDK some inflow that was not polluted with every chemical known to man.
I keep fishing it though. Love that lake. I think because it is such a challenge I like fishing it. You know if you get on some fish there... you did good. Really good.
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Re: White rock
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03/25/19 02:38 PM
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big girls are on the beds, so i have been told.(LMB's).
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