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Re: Ray Roberts water temp (cold )
[Re: slim 285]
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02/16/19 03:33 AM
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slim 285
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Does the man not have no shame.
Last edited by slim 285; 02/16/19 01:49 PM.
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Re: Ray Roberts water temp (cold )
[Re: slim 285]
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02/16/19 03:43 AM
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Mayo
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Unless Im Barrett Im sticking to Squaw right now 
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Re: Ray Roberts water temp (cold )
[Re: slim 285]
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02/16/19 03:58 AM
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Im sure he is well aware it will piss off a few. But can you blame someone for trying to better themselves in an industry that is changing rapidly? Hes sharing spots either found buy him or a paid informant. Doesnt mean that pattern cant be duplicated in other areas if someone is on your spot. I see both sides, but the sad part is money can be made on lazy people unwilling to put in work fishing.
Last edited by C.Seymour; 02/16/19 12:01 PM.
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Re: Ray Roberts water temp (cold )
[Re: slim 285]
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02/16/19 04:10 AM
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No matter how you feel about it, got to admit it's pretty darn innovative use of technology marketing. Watch how fast, tech savy guides pick this up.
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Re: Ray Roberts water temp (cold )
[Re: jcwebb70]
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02/16/19 04:16 AM
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No matter how you feel about it, got to admit it's pretty darn innovative use of technology marketing. Watch how fast, tech savy guides pick this up.
I am friends with several of the top guides around that would NEVER sell out to this. Its basically like saying hey... no need for a 400 plus dollar trip just use this to replace me. The guys that have been around and are going to stay around that are successful long time guides would never and will never do this.
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Re: Ray Roberts water temp (cold )
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02/16/19 12:18 PM
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No matter how you feel about it, got to admit it's pretty darn innovative use of technology marketing. Watch how fast, tech savy guides pick this up.
I am friends with several of the top guides around that would NEVER sell out to this. Its basically like saying hey... no need for a 400 plus dollar trip just use this to replace me. The guys that have been around and are going to stay around that are successful long time guides would never and will never do this. I understand both sides. On one hand, nobody likes the prospect of business being taken away and for those anglers that frequent the lakes nobody likes seeing guys on your spot and certainly nobody likes seeing an influx of guys on your spots. However, I consider guide business to be for particular clients and there is a huge difference between having a very capable guide showing you where to fish, how to fish and putting fish in the boat and that same client buying a few waypoints and trying to do it by his lonesome. Waypoints dont give you confidence to quit hiring a guide. Besides, guides being upset about this is the same as saying Billy is hurting his own guide business. I just dont see that happening. Lastly, have you ever seen a guy catching fish while you make a note to circle back around later on and check it out for yourself? How many spots do you have because of someone elses work? The answer is: a bunch. Whether its from a friend, a youtube video, on the water observations, post tourney talk, etc. So Billy wants to sell waypoints and that makes the buyer lazy? It seems that only in fishing so many people expect other anglers to live by the motto work harder not smarter.
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Re: Ray Roberts water temp (cold )
[Re: i-Fish]
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02/16/19 02:21 PM
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ZX4545
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That app will not even scratch the surface of RR, time on the water is the only thing that will get her dialed in. By the time someone pays their $20 the info will be dated. There have been many folks that thought they had productive spots then the wind blows from the north and they are left shaking their heads.
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Re: Ray Roberts water temp (cold )
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02/16/19 02:43 PM
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No matter how you feel about it, got to admit it's pretty darn innovative use of technology marketing. Watch how fast, tech savy guides pick this up.
I am friends with several of the top guides around that would NEVER sell out to this. Its basically like saying hey... no need for a 400 plus dollar trip just use this to replace me. The guys that have been around and are going to stay around that are successful long time guides would never and will never do this. LOL, said every professional who was made obsolete by technology.
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Re: Ray Roberts water temp (cold )
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02/16/19 03:30 PM
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adam_p
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I wonder how well received Billy Lawsons Fishlyfe app is to the boy wonders on RR with it giving out productive waypoints and all. If big fish is what draws people to RR even with the potential to catch absolutely nothing then I reckon RR is gonna start seeing a lot more traffic now that people can pay a few bucks for constantly updating honey holes. I am not in the least bit worried about an app from a guide from 100 miles away that has probably never fished Ray Roberts. Any info given to him will not be damaging to the most productive spots. I know most of the best fishermen on the lake and none of them would sell their waypoints. The only guides who are going to sell their info are ones who probably aren't very good out here anyway and can't stay booked. And just like Mark said, RR is a temperamental b***. Every local has stories of how they were "on them" only to get slapped in the face the very next day. It doesn't even take 180 degree wind switch to change everything. A point of Hg or a 30% difference in cloud cover can humble a man in a hurry on this lake. No matter how you feel about it, got to admit it's pretty darn innovative use of technology marketing. Watch how fast, tech savy guides pick this up.
I am friends with several of the top guides around that would NEVER sell out to this. Its basically like saying hey... no need for a 400 plus dollar trip just use this to replace me. The guys that have been around and are going to stay around that are successful long time guides would never and will never do this. LOL, said every professional who was made obsolete by technology. I grew up around a couple very established guides, it was always my understanding that most of their clients are just people that want to go fishing, most of them not even owning their own boats. I know Lindy had some that left their rods in his boat stall.
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Re: Ray Roberts water temp (cold )
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02/16/19 03:50 PM
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I wonder how well received Billy Lawsons Fishlyfe app is to the boy wonders on RR with it giving out productive waypoints and all. If big fish is what draws people to RR even with the potential to catch absolutely nothing then I reckon RR is gonna start seeing a lot more traffic now that people can pay a few bucks for constantly updating honey holes. Is this like a potlicking app? People can pay money to become degenerates? Essentially, yes. Billy Lawson, Lake Fork guide created a subscription based app that will involve various lakes and currently producing spots. Said spots will always be updated in order to remain current and productive. That is the premise anyway and RR is one of the lakes currently available on the app. $20 and voila! you now have access to a bunch of productive spots on RR. All you had to say was the name of the guy that created it... other guides will not buy into this. Your going to be getting Updated info from people just like yourself not professionals. Im no pro by any means and I still wont tell you the areas we smashed them on RR yesterday.
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Re: Ray Roberts water temp (cold )
[Re: slim 285]
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02/16/19 03:52 PM
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buda13
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Almost forgot... saw 54 degree water on RR yesterday. 
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Re: Ray Roberts water temp (cold )
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02/16/19 03:53 PM
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jcwebb70
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I wonder how well received Billy Lawsons Fishlyfe app is to the boy wonders on RR with it giving out productive waypoints and all. If big fish is what draws people to RR even with the potential to catch absolutely nothing then I reckon RR is gonna start seeing a lot more traffic now that people can pay a few bucks for constantly updating honey holes. I am not in the least bit worried about an app from a guide from 100 miles away that has probably never fished Ray Roberts. Any info given to him will not be damaging to the most productive spots. I know most of the best fishermen on the lake and none of them would sell their waypoints. The only guides who are going to sell their info are ones who probably aren't very good out here anyway and can't stay booked. And just like Mark said, RR is a temperamental b***. Every local has stories of how they were "on them" only to get slapped in the face the very next day. It doesn't even take 180 degree wind switch to change everything. A point of Hg or a 30% difference in cloud cover can humble a man in a hurry on this lake. No matter how you feel about it, got to admit it's pretty darn innovative use of technology marketing. Watch how fast, tech savy guides pick this up.
I am friends with several of the top guides around that would NEVER sell out to this. Its basically like saying hey... no need for a 400 plus dollar trip just use this to replace me. The guys that have been around and are going to stay around that are successful long time guides would never and will never do this. LOL, said every professional who was made obsolete by technology. I grew up around a couple very established guides, it was always my understanding that most of their clients are just people that want to go fishing, most of them not even owning their own boats. I know Lindy had some that left their rods in his boat stall. This. It's not going to replace many trips, as those are going to be mostly by people that want to catch fish, let's be honest here, most of us would be more productive/fiscally repsonsible to go on 2 guided trips/month than spending on what we do on boats, gas, time, equipment, etc. This is simply opening up another revenue stream for an untapped market.
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