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Help with braid to leader #12978600 11/28/18 06:56 PM
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after reading a lot of posts on here about using a bright colored braid with a fluorocarbon leader, i decided to give it a try. I set up two different rods - a baitcaster/MH rod and a spinning/M rod. I used the alberto knot of both (after practicing a bunch, i think it looked good).

started out with the baitcaster setup, and everything was good for about 15 minutes, and then BOOM. the knot caught on one of the eyes going out on a cast, and i had the worst backlash i've ever seen. Put that back in the rod box, and grabbed the spinning setup. Once again, all was good for about 15 minutes, and then the same disaster happened, and the spinning setup went into the rod box too.

How do you keep this from happening? I think the knot was good; i watched youtube videos and watched videos on several websites.

HELP!!


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Re: Help with braid to leader [Re: tin man 55] #12978606 11/28/18 07:07 PM
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Cut the tag ends VERY close to the knot and put a drop of cyanoacrylate, aka �super glue� on the knot. Makes it small enough to use on microguide rods and extremely strong.

I don�t use leaders on baitcasters though, so I�ve never experienced the blow up. Haha.

Now if someone has an answer for wind knots and braid on top water stuff, I�m all eyes and ears.


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Re: Help with braid to leader [Re: tin man 55] #12978607 11/28/18 07:07 PM
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I use this knot for my leaders, it is easy to tie with practice and it makes a streamline knot that I haven't had hang up on the eyes.

https://www.wired2fish.com/fishing-videos/how-to-tie-the-super-fg-knot-with-seth-feider/

Again, practice makes perfect

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Re: Help with braid to leader [Re: tin man 55] #12978619 11/28/18 07:22 PM
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Try crazy Alberto knot you can trim it really close been using it for a while and never hung on guides yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXjagwdjAhg

Re: Help with braid to leader [Re: tin man 55] #12978633 11/28/18 07:41 PM
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+1 on the improved/crazy Alberto cutting the tag ends short, then rubbing in a dab of superglue into the knot and over the tag ends

Rubbing in a dab of superglue makes a big difference to lay the tag ends down


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Re: Help with braid to leader [Re: tin man 55] #12978640 11/28/18 07:53 PM
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I always used the surgeons knot for braid to flouro. Never had a knot catch in the eyes.

Re: Help with braid to leader [Re: tin man 55] #12978663 11/28/18 08:21 PM
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I use 30# braid (P-line TCB Teflon Coated Braid) for the main line and 15 lb. mono (P-line CX Premium) for the leader. I join them with a double uni knot which is easy to tie with a little practice. You can also tie a single uni to single uni which is a little easier. I have had no strength issues with either. I trim the excess line with scissors very close to the knot.


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Re: Help with braid to leader [Re: tin man 55] #12978664 11/28/18 08:21 PM
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Albright knot without any problems

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Another vote for surgeons.


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Re: Help with braid to leader [Re: CCTX] #12978677 11/28/18 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by collincountytx
+1 on the improved/crazy Alberto cutting the tag ends short, then rubbing in a dab of superglue into the knot and over the tag ends

Rubbing in a dab of superglue makes a big difference to lay the tag ends down


super glue does help, always end with my fingers stuck together though hammer

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The surgeons knot with a drop of super glue is 500% easier and works very well when tied correctly which is very easy to do


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FG...�.Strongest, thinnest, best casting and hardest to learn to tie. But once you learn it's absolutely the best there is.


Re: Help with braid to leader [Re: tin man 55] #12978852 11/29/18 12:11 AM
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I agree with the FG knot. Takes me 2-3 times to get it right but it goes through the guides like butter and I have 100% confidence in it's strength.

Re: Help with braid to leader [Re: tin man 55] #12978981 11/29/18 02:36 AM
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FG knot.

It's a PITA to learn, but totally worth it. Bulletproof.

Once you learn it, you can tie it just as quickly and easily as any other knot.

Re: Help with braid to leader [Re: tin man 55] #12978983 11/29/18 02:39 AM
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Double uni knot is working great for me.

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