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Hard jerkbaits
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11/13/18 01:27 AM
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Bassin16
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For you guys that love to throw hard jerkbaits. Do you tie directly to a split ring or thard non-slip loop knot w/o a split ring? Is there a significant difference in the bait action btw the two ways?.
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Re: Hard jerkbaits
[Re: Bassin16]
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11/13/18 01:38 AM
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CCTX
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I do use a loop knot; but very infrequently and if I do, I tie a doubled line loop knot to the split ring the jerk bait came with.
I water balance all my jerkbaits with the split ring on. Removing the split ring would affect the tuning
The traditional non slip loop knot is a relatively weak knot. Throwing a jerkbait on 8lb test around cover with a traditional non slip loop knot is a recipe for heart break
Does a loop knot enhance subtle side to side wobbling and rolling; sure, but only rarely to such an extent that it would make a big difference in catch rate
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Re: Hard jerkbaits
[Re: Bassin16]
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11/13/18 02:16 AM
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rj74955
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Good stuff right there CCTX. It's going to get good before too long!
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Re: Hard jerkbaits
[Re: Bassin16]
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11/13/18 02:25 AM
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pg79
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tie straight to the 110 or pointer. 12lb sniper.
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Re: Hard jerkbaits
[Re: Bassin16]
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11/13/18 09:54 AM
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I haven't done this on jerkbaits but have on jigs saltwater fishing. Try tying a solid O ring to your line and use split ring pliers to attach to the lure. It gives the same motion as a loop knot without the breakpoint of a knot. It's also relatively easy to change lures.
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Re: Hard jerkbaits
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11/13/18 03:27 PM
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bigbass94
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Straight to the split ring and no loop knot. If you tie a loop knot with light line it'll slip out of the split ring sometimes. I've done a lot of tinkering and trial & error with jerkbaits. I don't really notice a difference between a loop knot or a regular knot.
"If people concentrated on the really important things in life, there'd be a shortage of fishing poles." - Doug Larson
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Re: Hard jerkbaits
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11/13/18 04:28 PM
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bbassfishes
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Don't wasted your time trying to tie the loop knot each time. Not to knock the people that do by any means, but there's not a measurable difference in just tying to the split ring. If you are more confident with the loop knot, then DO WHAT YOU ARE CONFIDENT IN, but in a tournament situation, or where you have limited time, this takes up precious amounts of it.
That said, I've gotten them with no split ring, thrown them, and caught just as many fish. It's more about how and where you present the bait than anything else.
You can have the most expensive and beautiful knot in the world, but if you aren't putting it in a fishes face, it will do you no good.
Last edited by bbassfishes; 11/13/18 04:29 PM.
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Re: Hard jerkbaits
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11/13/18 04:32 PM
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Ken A.
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No loop knot for me. It is a weak knot like mentioned above probably 60% strength of the line test. Tie directly to the split ring on the bait with a palomar and let er rip.
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Re: Hard jerkbaits
[Re: Bassin16]
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11/13/18 04:57 PM
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Bassin16
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Thanks for the great insight. Did not really want fool around with a loop knot Bryan
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Re: Hard jerkbaits
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11/13/18 05:11 PM
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Jerkbait is my favorite lure to throw. I have one tied on year round. And I do tie a loop knot. I dont use anything other than 12lb red label. Its thin enough for me. I've caught hundreds upon hundreds on a jerkbait up to 9.5 And have never had a knot failure. I tie the loop knot directly to the split ring that cMe with the bait. I tinker quit often with different hook and split ring sizes and numbers to get a bait to perform the way I want it. Great thing about having a swimming pool around. Yall can say a loop knot doesnt help but like stated I believe it does so I'll keep throwing it. I even throw it on all my hard body topwaters also.
Saltwater everything I throw is tied with a loop knot. Gives a jighead a lot more action.
I can backlash toilet paper.
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Re: Hard jerkbaits
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11/13/18 05:17 PM
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No loop knot for me. It is a weak knot like mentioned above probably 60% strength of the line test. Tie directly to the split ring on the bait with a palomar and let er rip. +1 I world never tie a loop knot on a vision 110 or pointer I think the split ring works just fine.
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Re: Hard jerkbaits
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11/13/18 05:27 PM
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buda13
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I gain a little extra action by using a speed clip attached to the split ring. Just a personal preference I guess... if for some reason I dont have any speed clips I just do a palomar direct to the split ring.
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Re: Hard jerkbaits
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11/13/18 07:04 PM
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sll
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I always remove the split ring and tie a loop knot to the eye.....crankbaits and jerkbaits. Personal preference sure, but I just do not trust the line moving and slipping into the split ring and weakening it.
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Re: Hard jerkbaits
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11/14/18 02:42 AM
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Mark Perry
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I think the Megabass 110s fish much better with the split rings on.
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Re: Hard jerkbaits
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11/14/18 02:59 AM
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Bill Durham
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KVD uses a Palomar.. good enough for me.
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