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MLF next year - Letting the inmates run the asylum #12949673 10/30/18 03:59 AM
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Seems way to convoluted, I'd be a little worried if I was one of the young guys that made the jump... https://www.majorleaguefishing.com/artic...g-to-work/21096

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Re: MLF next year - Letting the inmates run the asylum [Re: SC-001] #12949687 10/30/18 04:32 AM
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Very confusing. To complicated for me. Also sounds like mostly only for pay per view or subscribers.


Re: MLF next year - Letting the inmates run the asylum [Re: KnotEnuff] #12949697 10/30/18 05:37 AM
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It seems to me the best fisherman are trying to take over everything. I believe it is for the best. Generally I would disagree with this statement, but the management of the top clarifies this to me.

Things are changing rapidly.

Kernan and Romans qualified for the Elites and trust me. Rome and I totally respect those guys and have seen what they have accomplished and witnessed it and we have spent a ton of time on the water to be our best. We also know all those guys in the Elites are there because they earned it.

The money didn't make sense to either one of them as all of us have to provide for our families. They both poured out alot of cash to chase the dream and they both did decent but still under the money line.

All of the major tours are going away soon. Greed in the upper portion will go away and there will be at least 1 tour in the "minor league" for up and coming anglers.

I hope the new BPT tour makes a difference and I believe it will as long as they are not greedy and try to grow the sport. It may take a few years to get there.

It will happen. If I can't be a part maybe Rome can.

Re: MLF next year - Letting the inmates run the asylum [Re: Joel McBride] #12949719 10/30/18 10:42 AM
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Im going to have to agree with you there Joel. I think greed is just a common thing in any sport for that matter which takes the joy and fun out of it. But I would like to know where our federation money goes for both BASS and FLW? Someone is making money and its definitely not the anglers on either side.

Re: MLF next year - Letting the inmates run the asylum [Re: Joel McBride] #12949751 10/30/18 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted By: Joel McBride
It seems to me the best fisherman are trying to take over everything. I believe it is for the best. Generally I would disagree with this statement, but the management of the top clarifies this to me.

Things are changing rapidly.

Kernan and Romans qualified for the Elites and trust me. Rome and I totally respect those guys and have seen what they have accomplished and witnessed it and we have spent a ton of time on the water to be our best. We also know all those guys in the Elites are there because they earned it.

The money didn't make sense to either one of them as all of us have to provide for our families. They both poured out alot of cash to chase the dream and they both did decent but still under the money line.

All of the major tours are going away soon. Greed in the upper portion will go away and there will be at least 1 tour in the "minor league" for up and coming anglers.

I hope the new BPT tour makes a difference and I believe it will as long as they are not greedy and try to grow the sport. It may take a few years to get there.

It will happen. If I can't be a part maybe Rome can.

You dont think the bpt was made because of greed? I dont buy in that the major tours are going anywhere anytime soon. Way to many people willing to give it a shot.

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Then why is the 2019 Elite Series roster only 34 people thus far? And 8 of the 34 are coming over from FLW.


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"MLF is an angler-driven league and the event rules and formats are subject to change at any time as determined by the Pro Bass Tour Anglers Association (PBTAA)"

I predict this will be the death of this league. There will be in-fighting and hurt feelings.

I've been to tournaments where they let anglers vote on changes for the event and it did not go well. There is always guys walking away saying its BS and they'll never fish it again.

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Re: MLF next year - Letting the inmates run the asylum [Re: fouzman] #12949898 10/30/18 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted By: fouzman
Then why is the 2019 Elite Series roster only 34 people thus far?

Give it time Fouz. You cant just put any Joe Blow in there. Let they best come up and earn a spot. It will fill up.
Myself, I have no desire to watch pros catch 1-2 lb fish all day. MLF format encourages those weights. Its more of a numbers game. The 5 bass limit format encourages anglers to catch bigger fish. Thats what truly separates the elites. KVD should know that more than anyone. Guarantee you he hasnt won the majority of his BASS tournaments by catching more numbers than the other anglers. JMO


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Re: MLF next year - Letting the inmates run the asylum [Re: fouzman] #12949903 10/30/18 01:26 PM
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If the MLF live deal is pay per view I'm out, I will still watch the world championship on CBS though, I have the last 2 years, otherwise I will still follow the elites series live stuff on espn3 with all the new faces...

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Then why is the 2019 Elite Series roster only 34 people thus far? And 8 of the 34 are coming over from FLW.
Good question, you would think the incentive they gave for 2018 guys staying all of those that didn't go MLF would have announce they're returing but thats not whats happened hmmm I'm sure there is a whole lot of behind the scenes stuff we will never know.

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Then why is the 2019 Elite Series roster only 34 people thus far?

Give it time Fouz. You cant just put any Joe Blow in there. Let they best come up and earn a spot. It will fill up.
Myself, I have no desire to watch pros catch 1-2 lb fish all day. MLF format encourages those weights. Its more of a numbers game. The 5 bass limit format encourages anglers to catch bigger fish. Thats what truly separates the elites. KVD should know that more than anyone. Guarantee you he hasnt won the majority of his BASS tournaments by catching more numbers than the other anglers. JMO

That makes a lot of sense to me I have said along time ago the Bass needs to listen to its grass roots fishermen also but I also think that some of the top pros could care less about them also.

Re: MLF next year - Letting the inmates run the asylum [Re: KnotEnuff] #12949914 10/30/18 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: KnotEnuff
Very confusing. To complicated for me. Also sounds like mostly only for pay per view or subscribers.

If its that way it will hurt them and there sponsors not everyone will pay to watch them catch dinks all day.

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Reading it seems simple. Not that hard to understand. I like the different format.

But The pay per view portion, if true, may not get the anglers the exposure they want.

I think over time you will have to pay anglers more that draw bigger crowds, and that will cause dissension.

I have no doubt the elite's will have a full field next year.

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Let me see if I understand this correctly. The "tour level" events are 6 days of competition but the last day is the only day the consumer can watch and it is live streamed, not aired on television. The "Cup" events are shot in the dark and are aired and consumed a YEAR after completion the same way they have been in the past on the Outdoor Channel. The "Redcrest" has no info on whether it will be televised and when that will be. I am guessing it will be similar to the "tour" events in that only the last day will be live streamed on-line. The "World Championship" is the culmination of all the chaos and will be aired in six one hour episodes on CBS and six two hour episodes on Discovery. I do not buy for one second that these anglers jumped ship to "grow the sport" or for "sponsor exposure". With just the "tour" events you are talking about 40 full days of competition that won't even be televised or live streamed (Day 1-5 x 8 events). Then what if the television package the consumer has does not include the Discovery channel or the Outdoor Channel? How is the product consumed then? Charge the consumer to pay for on-line access of televised episodes? What if they do not want to pay? Now you are left with 6 episodes of network aired shows that 95% of people with a television can consume. Out of 14 events. So where is all of this added "sponsor exposure" and opportunity to "grow the sport"?


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The way I read it only the last day of bpt will be live. Shows dont start for another year. Who really knows how it will work out. I'm guessing they will do ok as well as BASS and FLW. Personally, I see some guys heading back to BASS next year but we'll see

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Originally Posted By: RedRaider3933
Let me see if I understand this correctly. The "tour level" events are 6 days of competition but the last day is the only day the consumer can watch and it is live streamed, not aired on television. The "Cup" events are shot in the dark and are aired and consumed a YEAR after completion the same way they have been in the past on the Outdoor Channel. The "Redcrest" has no info on whether it will be televised and when that will be. I am guessing it will be similar to the "tour" events in that only the last day will be live streamed on-line. The "World Championship" is the culmination of all the chaos and will be aired in six one hour episodes on CBS and six two hour episodes on Discovery. I do not buy for one second that these anglers jumped ship to "grow the sport" or for "sponsor exposure". With just the "tour" events you are talking about 40 full days of competition that won't even be televised or live streamed (Day 1-5 x 8 events). Then what if the television package the consumer has does not include the Discovery channel or the Outdoor Channel? How is the product consumed then? Charge the consumer to pay for on-line access of televised episodes? What if they do not want to pay? Now you are left with 6 episodes of network aired shows that 95% of people with a television can consume. Out of 14 events. So where is all of this added "sponsor exposure" and opportunity to "grow the sport"?


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