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Re: Shooting in Dallas [Re: mikereils5er] #12894883 09/11/18 01:43 AM
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You wouldn't think she had a drink and still be in uniform. But you never know.

Re: Shooting in Dallas [Re: Mark Perry] #12894886 09/11/18 01:43 AM
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I wonder if there is something to the fact that her boss requested a blood draw almost as soon as it happened.


In this case, being drunk would help.


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Re: Shooting in Dallas [Re: el Rojo] #12894888 09/11/18 01:44 AM
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You wouldn't think she had a drink and still be in uniform. But you never know.


By no means am I saying she did but it happens.

Re: Shooting in Dallas [Re: TR176] #12894980 09/11/18 02:26 AM
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Accident or not she will be crucified


So if you are a trained cop but off duty it is ok to fire first without any evidence of the other person having a weapon?
I can see a panicked person that has zero training making this mistake, and it is a mistake. But a trained Dallas police officer?
Even if she did not mean to shoot him this is manslaughter in one form or another. And yes she should pay a price.


It would appear the castle doctrine would apply. Even for a police officer. The quandry is she was in somebody elses castle.


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Re: Shooting in Dallas [Re: mikereils5er] #12895012 09/11/18 02:40 AM
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Protesters are out raising heck with DPD tonight.


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Re: Shooting in Dallas [Re: Chris B] #12895026 09/11/18 02:57 AM
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Protesters are out raising heck with DPD tonight.


A coworker was Facebook live from the Dallas Police Association protest rally. A guy was hectoring everyone about the inequity of Utes being certified as adults for the short time I listened.

Re: Shooting in Dallas [Re: 9094] #12895124 09/11/18 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted By: 9094
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Accident or not she will be crucified


So if you are a trained cop but off duty it is ok to fire first without any evidence of the other person having a weapon?
I can see a panicked person that has zero training making this mistake, and it is a mistake. But a trained Dallas police officer?
Even if she did not mean to shoot him this is manslaughter in one form or another. And yes she should pay a price.


She perceived the threat as a person in what she firmly believed to be her apartment. Yes, even as a police officer, if you are in my house, Im going to fire first, regardless if you have a weapon or not. My doors were your warning.

The stars had to align perfectly for this incident to occur the way it did.
She parked on the wrong floor.
Walked to what shouldve been her apartment on the wrong floor.
When inserting her key into the door, which was already ajar, it swung open.
The apartment was dark inside and she saw a silhouette of a person.

Its bad luck all around. Its a terrible tragedy for both parties and families.

Re: Shooting in Dallas [Re: Mark Perry] #12895130 09/11/18 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mark Perry
I wonder if there is something to the fact that her boss requested a blood draw almost as soon as it happened.


Probably that is procedure if off duty wearing a uniform or something along that line

Re: Shooting in Dallas [Re: mikereils5er] #12895178 09/11/18 11:25 AM
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If a jury finds this to be just a horrible mistake and the defense presents its case as if she really believed she was inside her own apartment (and jury believes it), then she isnt going to be facing any time at all. I feel she should be held accountable for her actions... do I think its murder, no I dont... manslaughter for sure and I feel for all parties involved in this horrible incident (especially the innocent man who lost his life). If she gets off with no charges, then its gonna be all hell with riots and will widen the gap the majority of police officers are trying to close. Transparency is key.... Im very curious if she attempted to provide any kind of medical aid after shooting the man.

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Re: Shooting in Dallas [Re: mikereils5er] #12895190 09/11/18 11:43 AM
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Lots of people seem to have a hard time getting past she went to the wrong apartment. I have no problem understanding how that could happen. A simple mistake put this in play.

Re: Shooting in Dallas [Re: mikereils5er] #12895194 09/11/18 11:48 AM
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I agree she may have gone to the wrong apartment, maybe due to fatigue, but what we will never know is the words exchanged between the two parties involved. End of the day her actions cost an innocent man his life, and for those reason alone (cop or not) she is accountable for her actions. I dont see her doing anymore than 2 years in jail if any to be honest.

Re: Shooting in Dallas [Re: mikereils5er] #12895202 09/11/18 11:58 AM
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this is gonna sound like racism but it is really realism....40-50% of black men in metro areas have a criminal record and as a police officer she had to be very aware of this and her first thought was this is a criminal who has broken into my apartment and likely will do harm to me unless I act quickly....
instead of protesting against the police,honest law abiding black citizens ought to be raising hell and condemning the blacks who commit crimes and give their race a bad reputation.

Re: Shooting in Dallas [Re: mikereils5er] #12895203 09/11/18 11:59 AM
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Even if her story is the truth. For the record. I find her story plausible. Just because those apartment buildings are usually identical on every floor.
With the way it was handled. All the confusion caused by the media. The racial spin put on by the media. If she isn't convicted. There will be problems caused from this. The South Dallas jury has already decided she is guilty. They have already decided that race has played a part in this. If any color played a part. It was blue. Not white or black. DPD would have likely swept this one under the rug had there not been a public outcry and the Texas Rangers hadn't of gotten involved.

Re: Shooting in Dallas [Re: mikereils5er] #12895211 09/11/18 12:06 PM
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You just cant wander into the wrong apartment and shoot a person. She needs about 5 years in prison to think about it.

Re: Shooting in Dallas [Re: mikereils5er] #12895228 09/11/18 12:29 PM
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Perhaps this will clarify many of the assumptions being made here. If I have an accident while on the job, I get sent for drug/alcohol test immediately. Since she was in uniform (though off-duty) and killed someone, I would imagine DPD has a similar policy. If she was intoxicated, it's not going to end well for her. But I view the test more as a CYA deal than anything. P.S. it was the Rangers that asked for a delay in a warrant being issued and it was the Rangers who let her turn herself in to Kaufman Co.

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