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Re: Whats the Matter with Some People? [Re: Pilothawk] #12846092 07/29/18 07:08 PM
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There is a large segment of our population that has the attitude that "I don't have to do anything if I don't want to". Some of those are the ones who get shot by LEO.

Re: Whats the Matter with Some People? [Re: Pilothawk] #12846243 07/29/18 10:11 PM
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Y'know, there's a rational approach to standing up for your rights without escalating things. I don't agree with the idea that "If you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to hide" - you still have a reasonable right to privacy, even when you've been pulled over by a cop. I may not have anything to hide, but I still don't want my truck searched.

It's really simple - don't answer questions, but BE POLITE. Hand over license & insurance when asked. If the officer asks questions, respond with something like "Am I free to leave?" or "I don't wish to answer any questions, officer". If they ask to look in your vehicle, simply say "I don't consent to any searches". When they hand documents over, say "Thank you". If the officer had probable cause to stop you in the first place, they'll write the citation anyways, but at least you won't escalate things.

Odds are that the situation then won't involve a k9 being primed to sic ya.

But being argumentative, uncooperative and giving alot of attitude will almost surely escalate things to the point of the OP's scenario.


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Re: Whats the Matter with Some People? [Re: TexDawg] #12846428 07/30/18 01:15 AM
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Yep, be calm, show respect. Works every time.


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Re: Whats the Matter with Some People? [Re: Pilothawk] #12846483 07/30/18 02:23 AM
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Ive been on both sides of the law . I ALWAYS yes sir, no sir ,comply, answer questions , turn lights on if pulled over at nite and put my hands on the steering wheel where there visable . Never had an altercation or been takin to jail unless I was just straight up caught red handed or lost the foot race ...

Re: Whats the Matter with Some People? [Re: Nickbyrd] #12846490 07/30/18 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted By: Nickbyrd
Ive been on both sides of the law . I ALWAYS yes sir, no sir ,comply, answer questions , turn lights on if pulled over at nite and put my hands on the steering wheel where there visable . Never had an altercation or been takin to jail unless I was just straight up caught red handed or lost the foot race ...


Exact same here Nickbyrd...except I dont even start the foot race because I know in advance I wont win it.

Re: Whats the Matter with Some People? [Re: Pilothawk] #12846494 07/30/18 02:40 AM
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Re: Whats the Matter with Some People? [Re: Westside.] #12846509 07/30/18 02:51 AM
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roflmao roflmao Great idea! I like options.

Re: Whats the Matter with Some People? [Re: Caymas Cx 21] #12846551 07/30/18 03:33 AM
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If I was not breaking any laws, I would slam my door on the dogs head.

if you got nothing to hide shouldn't be an issue, dog drag you out by the jewels may get your attention.

What if you have nothing to prove? People can say anything to get there way. All a cop has to do to search your vehicle is say , I smell marijuana. They search find nothing and no consequence for them since they said they thought they smelled it. Just a public notice I dont drink, smoke or do drugs. But I do believe that no one is a authority over me till Im in front of a judge. Anyone who has a little way to screw with your life will. Its the nature of so called authority


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Re: Whats the Matter with Some People? [Re: outfishdya] #12846641 07/30/18 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted By: outfishdya
If I was not breaking any laws, I would slam my door on the dogs head.


Do you show your receipt at Walmart when asked?

Re: Whats the Matter with Some People? [Re: mattm] #12846649 07/30/18 12:07 PM
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If I was not breaking any laws, I would slam my door on the dogs head.


Do you show your receipt at Walmart when asked?


Hell no! Every time they ask for a receipt, I have a Tippin moment.



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Re: Whats the Matter with Some People? [Re: Pilothawk] #12846977 07/30/18 04:22 PM
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"I don't consent to any searches"

That's fine, you're being evasive and acting suspicious so you're being detained until the K-9 gets here. See how that works?

Much easier to comply and be on your way than be a roadside lawyer.


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Re: Whats the Matter with Some People? [Re: Pilothawk] #12846987 07/30/18 04:33 PM
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why cant everybody just forfeit their rights?? I mean we aren't allowed to use them so what good are they? really?
just do what ever the jackboots say and they may allow you to live one more day and as long as the sweet officer isn't harmed mentally or physically in any way so that they can return to their families to hell with your rights.


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Re: Whats the Matter with Some People? [Re: soggybottom] #12846988 07/30/18 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: soggybottom
why cant everybody just forfeit their rights?? I mean we aren't allowed to use them so what good are they? really?
just do what ever the jackboots say and they may allow you to live one more day and as long as the sweet officer isn't harmed mentally or physically in any way so that they can return to their families to hell with your rights.


Do a ride out with an LEO sometime. Watch how respectful they are then watch the attitude that gets thrown at them. Like I said a good number of people talk themselves right into trouble.

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Originally Posted By: soggybottom
why cant everybody just forfeit their rights?? I mean we aren't allowed to use them so what good are they? really?
just do what ever the jackboots say and they may allow you to live one more day and as long as the sweet officer isn't harmed mentally or physically in any way so that they can return to their families to hell with your rights.


Do a ride out with an LEO sometime. Watch how respectful they are then watch the attitude that gets thrown at them. Like I said a good number of people talk themselves right into trouble.


Im sure. Im in customer service and I still don't get to harass my customers when they are mean to me.


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Re: Whats the Matter with Some People? [Re: soggybottom] #12847216 07/30/18 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted By: soggybottom
why cant everybody just forfeit their rights?? I mean we aren't allowed to use them so what good are they? really?
just do what ever the jackboots say and they may allow you to live one more day and as long as the sweet officer isn't harmed mentally or physically in any way so that they can return to their families to hell with your rights.
"Jackboots" "Live one more day". Are you serious? People like myself that have devoted their entire adult life to increasing the professionalism of policing have to listen to this. You need a reality check. I have made the offer before but please come see me. I will put you through our citizens police academy and you will get a real dose of what this job is really like.

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