Look up OPST Commando heads/Micro Skagit. On YouTube.

I've been looking at the OPST heads, look like fun, I mean useful.

Something else to consider is rod action, when I was looking at 8wt Helios 3s the manager was telling me he found the F series threw his large flies better than the D model due to the deeper loading. I'm starting to play with +1 line weights and seeing how the heavier line loads differently and turns certain flies over easier.

I overweight all my fast action rods plus 1. Note the new Rio lines are plus a half anyway especially the Perception lines which are my favorite lines going.

Really like the OPST Commando Head on a 5wt-9ft rod I use. Made a video to demo why...

I love the spey/skagit casting game. I only use my OPST heads for single hand skagit casts with sink tips. I tried it a few times in stillwater, but for me, if I could set my anchor in moving water, the cast was way more fluid. I can't say I enjoy overhead casting shooting heads that are less then 30 ft on any rod.

For ponds and creeks, for me, I love the pick up and shoot. The head must not be too long or you then have do a false cast. If you are standing in water the Skagit/Spey cast is the enjoyment and as BoPro said with a sustained water anchors the cast is so enjoyable.

Awesome video. I need to file this on my computer for future referance.

My back is my issue, not the shoulder. When I wake up in the morning and it�s really stiff, castig the fly rod helps more than you can imagine.

With a little help from an awesome instructor, I can achieve 60-70 feet with a 9ft 5wt and 70-80 feet with a 9ft 8wt. Considering the majority of the fish I catch is between the 40-60 foot range, this is good.

Thanks for al the responses!!!

Duane

Ok, I ended up putting a 9wt line on my 8wt rod to help through the larger bass lures I have. So far it is working very well.

Thanks for all the feedback and input!!!