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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Notaguide]
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05/18/18 08:05 PM
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retdbasser
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Dress code, no backpacks.
Prepare for the future-it will be here tomorrow. Personal Best Large Mouth Bass 9 lbs. 12 oz 5/13/19. Herb Stein, who famously reminded us that “if something can’t go on forever, it will stop.”
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Notaguide]
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05/18/18 08:07 PM
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Here's a little secret... more cops, metal detectors, armed teachers, etc. will not stop the school shootings.
Maybe it will improve response time and possibly decrease the number of victims, but it will do nothing to limit the number of deranged people that decide they want to go shoot up a room full of innocents.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Notaguide]
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05/18/18 08:08 PM
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fouzman
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One way in. One way out. Retired, young special forces or experienced S.W.A.T. guys, paid at the top of their grade, full benefits, armed and stationed outside and inside the one way entry/exit. Through a metal detector after you clear exterior security. At least four of them on campus at all times during class. 2 of them 24/7. Once those campuses are secure, we can begin with mental health evaluations of students who are flagged as a possible threat, CPS visits to their homes with their parent(s). If they're determined to be a risk to themselves or the public, they get committed, and not to an alternative school.
Coincidence is His way of remaining anonymous.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: fouzman]
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05/18/18 08:13 PM
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PondFish
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One way in. One way out. Retired, young special forces or experienced S.W.A.T. guys, paid at the top of their grade, full benefits, armed and stationed outside and inside the one way entry/exit. Through a metal detector after you clear exterior security. At least four of them on campus at all times during class. 2 of them 24/7. One way in and one way out in a school would probably be very high on the building code and fire code violation list.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: fouzman]
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05/18/18 08:13 PM
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retdbasser
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One way in. One way out. Retired, young special forces or experienced S.W.A.T. guys, paid at the top of their grade, full benefits, armed and stationed outside and inside the one way entry/exit. Through a metal detector after you clear exterior security. At least four of them on campus at all times during class. 2 of them 24/7. Probably work. Good employment for ex military. And the cost is higher taxes. Will anyone want to pay for it. They're complaining about higher taxes all the time on here.
Last edited by retdbasser; 05/18/18 08:14 PM.
Prepare for the future-it will be here tomorrow. Personal Best Large Mouth Bass 9 lbs. 12 oz 5/13/19. Herb Stein, who famously reminded us that “if something can’t go on forever, it will stop.”
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Notaguide]
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05/18/18 08:14 PM
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Emit R Detsaw
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Nudity - You never hear of these events at nudist colonies....
May you be treated the way you treat other people, today and everyday!
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: PondFish]
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05/18/18 08:15 PM
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fouzman
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One way in. One way out. Retired, young special forces or experienced S.W.A.T. guys, paid at the top of their grade, full benefits, armed and stationed outside and inside the one way entry/exit. Through a metal detector after you clear exterior security. At least four of them on campus at all times during class. 2 of them 24/7. One way in and one way out in a school would probably be very high on the building code and fire code violation list. Exceptions to exits will be made in cases of an emergency. With those same armed guards and the responding LEOs stationed at those exits.
Coincidence is His way of remaining anonymous.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: fouzman]
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05/18/18 08:15 PM
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Patriot Guard Rider
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One way in. One way out. Retired, young special forces or experienced S.W.A.T. guys, paid at the top of their grade, full benefits, armed and stationed outside and inside the one way entry/exit. Through a metal detector after you clear exterior security. At least four of them on campus at all times during class. 2 of them 24/7. Once those campuses are secure, we can begin with mental health evaluations of students who are flagged as a possible threat, CPS visits to their homes with their parent(s). If they're determined to be a risk to themselves or the public, the get committed, and not to an alternative school. This may be the best "easy fix". Controlled entrance and exit with some kind of detection system. The problem would be at some schools (like Arlington Martin HS, with about 3,400) with high enrollments. Trying to get that many in a door would take a while. Maybe stagger the arrival times by class (freshman, sophomore, etc).
Family is everything!
Life is precious. We don’t have forever. We have now. This moment. We can choose to love our lives now.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Uncle Zeek]
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05/18/18 08:40 PM
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I honestly believe this would deter a huge number of these incidents: I honestly believe you're dead wrong. The last few mass shootings at schools were ones that had armed persons in the school. Like terrorists that have no concern for their own lives, these kids are obviously so disturbed that the chance of dying isn't a deterrent.
This thread needs more cowbell ...
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Notaguide]
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05/18/18 08:41 PM
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Bad idea.
Especially if the riffraff that hang around police stations and city jails were brought into close proximity with children.
It ain't what they call you, it's what you answer to.... W.C.Fields
I know a little about a lot of things but not a whole lot about anything....CGD
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Emit R Detsaw]
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05/18/18 08:44 PM
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Bass&More
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Nudity - You never hear of these events at nudist colonies.... Correct and conceal and carry still apply 
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Notaguide]
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05/18/18 08:45 PM
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Notaguide
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So make lockup where it currently is.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Notaguide]
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05/18/18 08:54 PM
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John175☮
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Bigger gun free zone signs.
Stress less, relax more. Go fishing.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Notaguide]
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05/18/18 09:00 PM
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Sawhorse
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Or it could be seen as a challenge to someone that wants to die anyway And therein is the problem, there is no way to stop someone who wants to die. I dont think thats being negative or pessimistic, I think its reality. Cold, sober, hard, reality. We will never be able to stop this from happening. Of all the approaches Im aware of, the Argyle approach makes the most sense to me. Prevent, decrease...etc. yes, but elimination isnt feasible. 
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Notaguide]
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05/18/18 09:13 PM
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Siberman
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Quit glorifying (for want of a better word) mass murderers in the media . How many potential psychopaths have been "inspired" by the infamous ?
Shoot , Shovel , Shut up .
Maranatha !
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