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Re: Quicksilver 2 stroke outboard motor oil not the synthetic blend for Mercery [Re: JCBfromTHF] #12713148 04/12/18 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted By: JCBfromTHF
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I'm not sure who told you that is any different than this

same part # as the 2 cycle premium plus bottle, they are the exact same thing one was just made specifically for wal-mart.


Not true.
Yes it is, don't believe me call these guys they are in the know about mercury/quicksilver oils http://www.europeanmarine.org/
The only difference is the 2 cycle packaging was made for wal-mart corp.

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Re: Quicksilver 2 stroke outboard motor oil not the synthetic blend for Mercery [Re: jafish] #12713282 04/12/18 02:29 PM
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Synthetic blend isn't gonna hurt what you've got. Just run it, less smoke anyways. The end.

Re: Quicksilver 2 stroke outboard motor oil not the synthetic blend for Mercery [Re: LinkLowrance] #12713520 04/12/18 04:59 PM
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I'm running the blend in my 250 Pro XS, after not being able to find the original. No issues.

Re: Quicksilver 2 stroke outboard motor oil not the synthetic blend for Mercery [Re: SC-001] #12713575 04/12/18 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted By: Bossbowman

The only difference is the 2 cycle packaging was made for wal-mart corp.


I have no idea who is telling you this (and quite frankly I don't care) because its completely false.

I have 4 of those jugs in the picture I posted in my possession right now and 3 came from Academy and the one in my truck came from BPS. I have also purchased this same oil (in the same jugs) for over 20 years from countless sources. It is NOT some sort of Walmart exclusive packaging. I don't care if Mercury called me on the phone and said it was, I would call them a liar. LOL

I can post links all day showing people that claim the earth is flat. That don't make it true though. And as far as parts numbers being the same.....I see that a lot when one product is discontinued and another is made to replace it. Some companies will add a "-1" or "-2" or something like that to indicate what generation the product is on the part number, but not always.

Re: Quicksilver 2 stroke outboard motor oil not the synthetic blend for Mercery [Re: jafish] #12713757 04/12/18 07:52 PM
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See this, another variation in packaging,

and this one

and this one


they are all filled the same place, just different packaging for different retailers with slightly different price points. Just because yours didn't say synth blend doesn't mean it wasn't, theres actually probably very little synthetic in it anyways they can techincally have just a drop of synthetic in there and still call it a blend. Its the exact same premium plus going way back, all the same part # from mercury.

Re: Quicksilver 2 stroke outboard motor oil not the synthetic blend for Mercery [Re: jafish] #12713836 04/12/18 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted By: jafish
My 1993 Mercery 225 hp calls for straight two stroke engine oil not a blend or full synthetic.


Back in '93 when they wrote the book on your motor, synthetic oil wasn't really a thing. If they re-wrote the book today they would tell you it's just fine. I run premium plus in my '95 Merc and it runs like a scalded ape.

Re: Quicksilver 2 stroke outboard motor oil not the synthetic blend for Mercery [Re: TexasPescado] #12713881 04/12/18 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted By: TexasPescado
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My 1993 Mercery 225 hp calls for straight two stroke engine oil not a blend or full synthetic.


Back in '93 when they wrote the book on your motor, synthetic oil wasn't really a thing. If they re-wrote the book today they would tell you it's just fine. I run premium plus in my '95 Merc and it runs like a scalded ape.


^^This^^
Your motor called for TCWIII spec oil and it don't know the difference between one brand and another.

Re: Quicksilver 2 stroke outboard motor oil not the synthetic blend for Mercery [Re: jafish] #12713955 04/12/18 09:42 PM
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So do you guys believe that Quicksilver/Merc would change the product to something that could be harmful to your engine but keep the same part number? Seems unlikely but I suppose its possible.

I get where yall are coming from, when you have a motor for years with no issues the thought of changing up anything is frightening. I'm that way with Sea Foam, wont use any other fuel additive on my boats. I've been told by certified Merc Mechanics that the oil packaged as Quicksilver is the exact same product as the product packaged as Mercury... only difference is the one with Merc on it costs $20 more per gallon than Quicksilver.


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Re: Quicksilver 2 stroke outboard motor oil not the synthetic blend for Mercery [Re: buda13] #12713970 04/12/18 09:51 PM
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So do you guys believe that Quicksilver/Merc would change the product to something that could be harmful to your engine but keep the same part number? Seems unlikely but I suppose its possible.



I don't think they would do that at all.

My issue is I disconnected the oil system on my motor and pre-mix when I fill up with gas. I have been told that synthetic 2 cycle oils can break down over time when mixed with fuel. How true that is I don't know, but I have avoided the sythetics at all cost since then. I am sure if you run your gas out of your boat pretty quick its a non-issue. If you are like me where the gas might sit in the tank for a month or more at a time it might be an issue. Like I said, I don't know how much truth there is to it but I would rather not find out as long as I have access to regular 2 stroke oil.

Re: Quicksilver 2 stroke outboard motor oil not the synthetic blend for Mercery [Re: tmd11111] #12713977 04/12/18 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted By: tmd11111
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My 1993 Mercery 225 hp calls for straight two stroke engine oil not a blend or full synthetic.


Back in '93 when they wrote the book on your motor, synthetic oil wasn't really a thing. If they re-wrote the book today they would tell you it's just fine. I run premium plus in my '95 Merc and it runs like a scalded ape.


^^This^^
Your motor called for TCWIII spec oil and it don't know the difference between one brand and another.


Yep

Re: Quicksilver 2 stroke outboard motor oil not the synthetic blend for Mercery [Re: jafish] #12714043 04/12/18 10:35 PM
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its all the same.

Re: Quicksilver 2 stroke outboard motor oil not the synthetic blend for Mercery [Re: JCBfromTHF] #12714217 04/13/18 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted By: JCBfromTHF
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So do you guys believe that Quicksilver/Merc would change the product to something that could be harmful to your engine but keep the same part number? Seems unlikely but I suppose its possible.



I don't think they would do that at all.

My issue is I disconnected the oil system on my motor and pre-mix when I fill up with gas. I have been told that synthetic 2 cycle oils can break down over time when mixed with fuel. How true that is I don't know, but I have avoided the sythetics at all cost since then. I am sure if you run your gas out of your boat pretty quick its a non-issue. If you are like me where the gas might sit in the tank for a month or more at a time it might be an issue. Like I said, I don't know how much truth there is to it but I would rather not find out as long as I have access to regular 2 stroke oil.
Do you use straight gas or alcohol laced gas? What engine and year do you have? This is off subject but we have used diesel that was several years old and it runs fine. If its real old like 4 or 5 we always throw a little motor oil on top of it first. Wish gas would hold up like that. I wish a real expert would jump in here on the oil subject. Like a petroleum engineer that works with 2 cycle oils. That may help all of us understand. I run Mobil One in everything I own other than my boat chain saw and weed eater and they all eat quicksilver silver label like you have.


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Re: Quicksilver 2 stroke outboard motor oil not the synthetic blend for Mercery [Re: JCBfromTHF] #12714223 04/13/18 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted By: JCBfromTHF
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So do you guys believe that Quicksilver/Merc would change the product to something that could be harmful to your engine but keep the same part number? Seems unlikely but I suppose its possible.



I don't think they would do that at all.

My issue is I disconnected the oil system on my motor and pre-mix when I fill up with gas. I have been told that synthetic 2 cycle oils can break down over time when mixed with fuel. How true that is I don't know, but I have avoided the sythetics at all cost since then. I am sure if you run your gas out of your boat pretty quick its a non-issue. If you are like me where the gas might sit in the tank for a month or more at a time it might be an issue. Like I said, I don't know how much truth there is to it but I would rather not find out as long as I have access to regular 2 stroke oil.


Synthetic oils dont break down. Also between the boat bouncing on the trailer to the lake and bouncing on the water premix will stay well mixed.

Re: Quicksilver 2 stroke outboard motor oil not the synthetic blend for Mercery [Re: SC-001] #12714619 04/13/18 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted By: Bossbowman
Yes it is, don't believe me call these guys they are in the know about mercury/quicksilver oils http://www.europeanmarine.org/
The only difference is the 2 cycle packaging was made for wal-mart corp.


You're partially correct. Mercury Marine packages oil in jugs that say Mercury, to be sold at Mercury dealers only. Quicksilver oil is the exact same thing but it is packaged to be sold at stores who are not Mercury dealers (not just Walmart). Premium Plus as far as I can remember has always been synthetic blend although it may not have always said so on the label. Premium was the straight dino oil.


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Re: Quicksilver 2 stroke outboard motor oil not the synthetic blend for Mercery [Re: Bryanmc57] #12714747 04/13/18 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: Bryanmc57
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Yes it is, don't believe me call these guys they are in the know about mercury/quicksilver oils http://www.europeanmarine.org/
The only difference is the 2 cycle packaging was made for wal-mart corp.


You're partially correct. Mercury Marine packages oil in jugs that say Mercury, to be sold at Mercury dealers only. Quicksilver oil is the exact same thing but it is packaged to be sold at stores who are not Mercury dealers (not just Walmart). Premium Plus as far as I can remember has always been synthetic blend although it may not have always said so on the label. Premium was the straight dino oil.

Correct.


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