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Re: Lake Athens floating boom
[Re: lcbl75771]
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03/27/18 09:42 PM
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cellis
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Dumb question, but isn't the boom kind of pointless if boats can cross it then cross back over it and possibly bring the salvinia with them? Not a dumb question at all
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Re: Lake Athens floating boom
[Re: John Findeisen]
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03/29/18 04:05 AM
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The intent is for boats not to cross it WHY some people would is beyond ne
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Re: Lake Athens floating boom
[Re: John Findeisen]
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03/29/18 04:47 AM
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Bobby Milam
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Don't know about Athens but the people from the state who put one out on Fork advised on the forum a while back that it was just to contain most of it from spreading and that boats were allowed to go over it with care.
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Re: Lake Athens floating boom
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03/29/18 06:22 PM
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The intent is for boats not to cross it WHY some people would is beyond ne That is not the intent at all. It is perfectly ok for boats to cross it.
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Re: Lake Athens floating boom
[Re: John Findeisen]
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04/02/18 06:49 PM
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I did not say it wasn't "OK" for boats to cross it. I said the "INTENT" was for boats not to cross it.........
The desired result is to NOT SPREAD the salvinia which has been detected in the back part of Lake Athens salvinia can spread on its own by wind and waves &/or be carried on the hull, motor, prop, TM or whatever equipment of a boat. if no boats cross over and back then the reduced chance of the bad stuff spreading ..... thus a better chance of the desired results
in some instances it is not against the law to go around/behind an orange cone ...... but they are usually put there to keep people or vehicles out of area thus the color orange on the boom.
C'mon Man !!!! Isn't it just LOGICAL ?
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Re: Lake Athens floating boom
[Re: John Findeisen]
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04/02/18 07:33 PM
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I was out yesterday in my fishing canoe, saw a bit of Giant Salvinia up above 2495, not much . . . yet. But, it spreads very, very fast.
This happened with Alligator Weed on the lake, too, where it went from less than 1 surface acre in 2011, to 28 acres in 2012. I see none shown for 2013 (???), not much of it as I recall the last several years, maybe conditions weren't right, but oh did it show up in 2017. Acres and acres of the stuff.
Too early to say this year but still tons of Alligator Weed mats where I fish.
The boom will only work in places like the current one, places on the lake where it has a slender "waist line" like there near the 2495 bridge or in narrow coves.
If Giant Salvinia gets loose in the broader main lake area, it won't be able to be roped off, so to speak.
Brad
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Re: Lake Athens floating boom
[Re: DBFishing83]
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04/02/18 10:25 PM
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I did not say it wasn't "OK" for boats to cross it. I said the "INTENT" was for boats not to cross it.........
The desired result is to NOT SPREAD the salvinia which has been detected in the back part of Lake Athens salvinia can spread on its own by wind and waves &/or be carried on the hull, motor, prop, TM or whatever equipment of a boat. if no boats cross over and back then the reduced chance of the bad stuff spreading ..... thus a better chance of the desired results
in some instances it is not against the law to go around/behind an orange cone ...... but they are usually put there to keep people or vehicles out of area thus the color orange on the boom.
C'mon Man !!!! Isn't it just LOGICAL ? When the man that is responsible for putting them out says it is ok to cross them. Logic says it's ok to cross them.
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Re: Lake Athens floating boom
[Re: John Findeisen]
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04/03/18 12:30 PM
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.... "OK" to cross .... just ":irresponsible" to cross and drag that stuff back
it's OK to speed .... but you might get a ticket it's OK to drive in the left hand lane ..... but most people don't like you doing it it's OK to spit juice on the ground ..... but it is disgusting GET the PICTURE ?
it's OK to cross the boom ..... just irresponsible.
it is a difference of opinion ...... plus "THE MAN" is not always LOGICAL.
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Re: Lake Athens floating boom
[Re: John Findeisen]
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04/03/18 08:35 PM
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Bobby Milam
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Im John Findeisen, team leader of the TPWD Inland Fisheries Divisions Aquatic Habitat Enhancement team. My team has been installing floating booms on lakes Fork, Palestine, Martin Creek, Caddo, and Naconiche. These booms are not intended to prevent anglers from fishing within the enclosed area, rather, they were installed to contain as much of a giant salvinia infestation as possible, assisting with the management of this aggressive, non-native plant. Concentrating giant salvinia in an area helps prevent the further spread of this unwanted plant to other areas of the reservoir, increases efficiency and effectiveness of herbicide treatment(s), decreases the overall amount of herbicide used, and serves as a potential production area for giant salvinia weevils (as is the case on Caddo Lake). If you want to fish on the other side of a boom, we recommend that you idle over the boom until the outboard motor gets close, then kill and raise the motor and ease over the boom with your trolling motor/paddle/push pole/etc. We also ask that you cross the boom (going in and coming out) in spots where no giant salvinia is along the boom. This will help keep the salvinia contained in the boomed-off area. Your cooperation is greatly appreciated and helps TPWD continue to make fishing better in Texas. Thanks, John Findeisen Natural Resources Specialist V Texas Parks and Wildlife Department Inland Fisheries Division - Aquatic Habitat Enhancement John.Findeisen@tpwd.texas.gov http://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/12638752/1Straight from the horses mouth over the intent of the booms.
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Re: Lake Athens floating boom
[Re: DBFishing83]
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04/03/18 09:06 PM
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.... "OK" to cross .... just ":irresponsible" to cross and drag that stuff back
it's OK to speed .... but you might get a ticket it's OK to drive in the left hand lane ..... but most people don't like you doing it it's OK to spit juice on the ground ..... but it is disgusting GET the PICTURE ?
it's OK to cross the boom ..... just irresponsible.
it is a difference of opinion ...... plus "THE MAN" is not always LOGICAL.
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Re: Lake Athens floating boom
[Re: John Findeisen]
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04/03/18 09:23 PM
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So is it OK to spit juice on the BOOM as you cross over it?
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Re: Lake Athens floating boom
[Re: Bobby Milam]
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04/03/18 10:42 PM
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Im John Findeisen, team leader of the TPWD Inland Fisheries Divisions Aquatic Habitat Enhancement team. My team has been installing floating booms on lakes Fork, Palestine, Martin Creek, Caddo, and Naconiche. These booms are not intended to prevent anglers from fishing within the enclosed area, rather, they were installed to contain as much of a giant salvinia infestation as possible, assisting with the management of this aggressive, non-native plant. Concentrating giant salvinia in an area helps prevent the further spread of this unwanted plant to other areas of the reservoir, increases efficiency and effectiveness of herbicide treatment(s), decreases the overall amount of herbicide used, and serves as a potential production area for giant salvinia weevils (as is the case on Caddo Lake). If you want to fish on the other side of a boom, we recommend that you idle over the boom until the outboard motor gets close, then kill and raise the motor and ease over the boom with your trolling motor/paddle/push pole/etc. We also ask that you cross the boom (going in and coming out) in spots where no giant salvinia is along the boom. This will help keep the salvinia contained in the boomed-off area. Your cooperation is greatly appreciated and helps TPWD continue to make fishing better in Texas. Thanks, John Findeisen Natural Resources Specialist V Texas Parks and Wildlife Department Inland Fisheries Division - Aquatic Habitat Enhancement John.Findeisen@tpwd.texas.gov http://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/12638752/1Straight from the horses mouth over the intent of the booms. Some people on here just don't understand that. They think they know everything
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Re: Lake Athens floating boom
[Re: Bobby Milam]
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04/04/18 01:22 AM
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cellis
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Good info. Thanks for sharing it
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Re: Lake Athens floating boom
[Re: John Findeisen]
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04/04/18 01:58 AM
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....well I stand corrected ..... if he says it's OK ....... I can no longer debate the point ..... logically.
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