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 Re: What is your emergency plan if you capsize?
[Re: lconn4]
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12/12/17 07:41 PM
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butch sanders
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i try to tie my gear off
floats on rods
i am in a Sit In (not sink)
i would head towards shore
the only time i thought i was going to swamp
was when they had a Thursday night tourney @ Lake Arlington
couldn't figure out why there were 40 boaats just sitting at the ramp
until the horn blew A 10 foot sit inside among 40 boats at take off would scare an Olypic paddler.  i was trolling by the dam there was no way to face the wakes they came from every direction i put my PFD on & waited to turtle it was warm weather, so i wasn't too worried i got lucky & made it to shore
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Re: What is your emergency plan if you capsize?
[Re: buda13]
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01/01/18 09:51 PM
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Tony from Oak Point
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I use relatively cheap gear and stay within a quick swim from the bank at least when we drop below the "100 rule" (water temp + air temp < 100). I wear clothing free of cotton or polly-fill and that is generous with Gore-tex, Thinsulate, Neoprene etc. On bigger water I team up with someone on a motorized boat that can tow me in if needed. These precautions have helped me the 2 times I've gotten wet in cold water (less that .1% of the times I've gone out kayaking in cold water). Those times I got wet were due to 1) bronchitis and associated dizziness 2) being towed by a trolling motor from another boat. I am not sure if SOT is such a huge benefit over SIK kayaks for what it's worth. For the times others have gotten wet in cold water anchor line was a huge factor.
That being said, gotta take a few risks in life. I think people have a bias to be concerned about being hurt by things that could have harmed us 100 or 1000 years ago because it comes naturally. So fear of drowning, attacked by wild animals, violent attack, etc, will stay readily on people's minds (or at on least mine). But lets face it, the food we eat, car wrecks, lack of exercise, or similar modern maladies are bigger risks. Then there is old age.
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Re: What is your emergency plan if you capsize?
[Re: buda13]
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01/02/18 01:41 AM
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doctorliver
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I've flipped before in the Yegua Creek in Feb. Always wear a PFD since I'm usually out alone. I don't wear chest waders, hip waders are much easier to let drop into the water when they fill. I can tell you, the weight of the water filling the hip waders made it difficult to move my legs up. Fortunately, I did use the kayak to keep a float with the PFD, flipped the yak, and was able to pull myself back into the yak and paddle my way out. I did lose some gear, but all that can be replaced. If you can go with a friend, I would highly recommend.
Tom
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Re: What is your emergency plan if you capsize?
[Re: buda13]
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01/02/18 04:46 AM
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lconn4
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This time of year with cold water and cold air, you really need to be dressed to go swimming. With a dry top, chest waders and layering underneath, I might get a little water inside inside after a while but I won't experience the gasping for air that folks not wearing something of this type would experience. You really can't appreciate how much these help with keeping you warm as very little air escapes. With a few chemical hand warmers in the feet and knee area I was sweating today and the temps never got above freezing. 
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Re: What is your emergency plan if you capsize?
[Re: buda13]
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01/09/18 01:23 AM
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Dfitz
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Got my Kokatak (XXL) in the mail today. Did a quick test on fitting. It's perfect, plenty of room to layer up on really cold days. Very easy to get on and off. Excited to break it in. 
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Re: What is your emergency plan if you capsize?
[Re: buda13]
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01/09/18 01:26 AM
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lconn4
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Nothing like dressing to swim and knowing everything will be ok. 
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 Re: What is your emergency plan if you capsize?
[Re: buda13]
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03/27/18 05:12 PM
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aznative96
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Over the weekend Jons3825 and I rescued a kayaker that had capsized, his yak had suctioned upside down to the water so he couldn't flip it... not sure that he could have climbed back in it if able to flip it over anyway. The guy was a mile or so from shore, water temp was mid 70's but air temp was about 41 degrees. He had on a lifejacket, but with all the cold weather gear he was wearing the life jacket was not really working very well. Having been in the water with a 100 MPh suit and all the under clothing I was wearing I can vouch that its like having an extra 200 lbs of weight strapped to you when trying to get out of the water. Fortunately we were fairly close by and able to come to his rescue, dude was struggling big time, no doubt in my mind if we were not there he doesn't make it to shore. My question for you fine folks that kayak fish, especially in the winter, what is your plan should you find yourself in a similar situation? Warm weather and water I could totally understand this not being an issue, but when layered clothing and hypothermia get thrown into the mix that's a totally different ball game. Do you stay near shore? Stay close to the launch? Fish in pairs? This fella got the bejesus scared out of him, was putting his kayak up for sale as soon as he got home. Good on you for helping this guy out. First thing is to get the correct PFD. I'm 6'3" and 250. A regular PFD just isn't going to cut it if I'm wearing snivel gear and have my basic yak tools on me. Like you said, when you're adding extra weight it will keep a PFD from keeping you up. You should not fish alone if you are farther from the bank than you can swim, period. Also, you should have some sort of float plan and others should know what that plan is and when to expect to hear from you. Also a good idea to pack a duffle bag with dry clothes and leave them in your truck or even in a dry bag in the yak. At least a blanket. Phil
Mahalo,
Phil
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Re: What is your emergency plan if you capsize?
[Re: buda13]
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03/27/18 10:11 PM
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lconn4
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I carry a dry bag with a change of clothes all year round. Even a welcoming rain in the hot summer months that you intentionally allow to cool you off can turn into a nightmare if winds get up and you are soaked. Spent an hour on bank years ago when the weather got too nasty (lightening, rain, and wind) to make it safely back through stump field. A 25 mph wind with pouring rain and temp drop into 70's will cool you down past the comfort zone quick.
PS
Highly recommend carrying a 45 gallon heavy duty trash can liner at all times. Cheap, strong, and will keep the rain and wind off of you while you wait out the weather. Lots of uses for it and easy to pack.
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