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Rod Weight
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03/25/18 08:07 PM
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Hello A rookie at this so a few questions.....
Is a 4wt better than a 5 wt as a 'universal' size to use? I have heard 4 and some people say 5wt
They say 5's ok for bass etc and 4wt good for trout
I have a 9ft 5wt but was thinking of getting a 4wt rod
Also what problem arise with a 5wt line on a 4 weight rod? thanks!
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Re: Rod Weight
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03/25/18 08:12 PM
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txbassnewbie
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you usually want to skip weights so if you have a 5wt you buy a 3 weight and 7 weight.
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Re: Rod Weight
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03/25/18 08:21 PM
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ok but does it hurt to run a 5wt line on a 4wt rod?
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03/25/18 08:35 PM
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RexW
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ok but does it hurt to run a 5wt line on a 4wt rod? No, most rods can be uplined or downlined a size or two without hurting anything. Depending on the rod and the caster's skill level will determine if you like casting/fishing a mis-matched rod/line combination. For many of us, there is not a lot of difference between a 5 wt and a 4 wt.
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03/25/18 11:40 PM
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Adam94
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Pretty new to this as well but I pulled in a hog on a 5 weight last week. Plenty of strength. Focus on your casting and not trying to throw huge flies and you'll catch on quick! Also if you have a pond near you to catch bluegill you will have a load of fun pulling them in on the fly. If you are near the Dallas area shoot me a place if you want to meet up and fish sometime.
Love God, Love Family, Love fishin' Collin College Fire Academy #59 Brookhaven Paramedic class #49
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Re: Rod Weight
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03/26/18 01:50 AM
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Fish USA!
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Thanks sounds fun I am retired Keller Fire Chief - might hook up some day
stay safe!
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03/26/18 05:47 AM
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Oh awesome thank you for what you have done! I finish paramedic school in July and plan on testing after I get my patch.
Love God, Love Family, Love fishin' Collin College Fire Academy #59 Brookhaven Paramedic class #49
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03/31/18 04:45 AM
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FlySouth
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5wt and 8wt are probably the most common sizes out there. 5wt will cover medium trout to medium bass but still be light enough Brookies and pan fish. An 8wt will get you into the red fish and bigger bass bug category. You can get away with uplining a rod. It might hurt performance but increase the feel of the rod. Ive never really heard of down lining. Most rods these days are too fast in action to think about down lining.
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04/01/18 03:09 AM
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ARReflections
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I would say most fish I have caught have been within 30-35 feet. The most common rod weight was a 6-7wt fly rod back in the day. But to sell those nice pretty loops at 100 ft you make a fast fly rod aka tip flex and you call it a 5wt. So, uplining your rod by one and even two line weights would probably put your all around current 5wt fly rod around that of a .... 7wt. Try uplining, you may find you like/feel the rod better for fishing those poppers.
The late Lefty Kreh was an advocate of up and down lining a rod.
The fly dictates the line most of the time, not the fish being caught. I have caught big fish on light line rods with no harm to the fish.
Depending on where you will fish majority of the time would dictate the next rod. Around Kellar with small water fun then maybe a 3wt since you have a 5wt. Plan on going to Galvastan and other salty destination A LOT or chucking jointed lures, I mean flies, to steelhead trout then an 8wt. Get the rod for what you will fish and not what you fantasize about fishing.
On another note, rod material is another thing to consider. I tend to like graphite for heavier weight rods and fiberglass for light weight rods. Heavier being 8wt and up. I have not went into bamboo yet.
Hope this helps.
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04/01/18 01:46 PM
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The rod weight is more about what you are throwing, and under what conditions, than what you are throwing at. Bigger, heavier, wind-resistant flies require a heavier rod and line to cast than smaller flies. Some fish require heavier tackle to get a solid hookset (tarpon come to mind). But very large fish can be landed on very light tackle, assuming the angler knows how to fight the fish and the conditions allow longer fights. You wouldn't want to catch gator trout on a two weight in 100 degree water, but you can easily do it without harming the fish in cooler water. Your tippet strength will have more influence than the rod weight in determining how much pressure you can put on a fish.
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04/01/18 04:37 PM
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Canoeman1947
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I have even heard of some really extreme people fishing for redfish with a 1/2 weight rod. So I guess he must have been using a 15 lb. tippet. Larry
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04/01/18 04:45 PM
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I have even heard of some really extreme people fishing for redfish with a 1/2 weight rod. So I guess he must have been using a 15 lb. tippet. Larry Most of the folks that you hang out with are EXTREME!!!
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04/01/18 07:17 PM
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Canoeman1947
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Now Jerry, Jim really can't help it. When he comes up to Mason in May for our Hill Country Gathering, we are going to stage an intervention. I'm going to try to wean him away from that wimpy TFO 1/2 weight graphite rod, and move him up to a beefy glass 1 weight rod. And I don't know what you mean by most of the folks I hang out with, after all I haven't seen you in several years. Larry
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05/04/18 11:49 PM
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Jim Ford
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Sorry for the late response; I have no internet service at home any more and have very little time to devote to the interweb. All I want to say is: Larry, if you ever hung a slot red on a half weight, you'd throw away all of those fiberglass "elephant guns" of yours and get yourself a manly half weight rod. But I just may get me one of those beefy glass one weights; I need a new stakeout stick for my skiff
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05/05/18 01:32 PM
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Canoeman1947
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Jim, you really need at least a 2 weight for a stakeout stick.
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