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Re: Classic format flawed
[Re: JFB]
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03/19/18 03:04 PM
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Douglas J
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Re: Classic format flawed
[Re: MikeSouza]
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03/19/18 03:06 PM
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beartrap
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look at another way.....the difference between 1st place and 10th was only 5lbs....(47lbs vs 42lbs)....each of the top 10 culled multiple times and weighed 15 fish total for three days...the difference between 1st place and 2nd place was only one pound meaning only 1 ounce per fish.... all of the top 10 are very good fishermen but seems to me when the weights are this close,luck determines who wins..... (and Jason Christi ain't had no luck in the classic).... Christie only weighed 14 fish. He didnt have a limit yesterday losing the classic by 1lb2oz and only having 4 fish last day...and losing two years ago because somebody caught a 29lb sack last day is....having no luck at the classic...
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Re: Classic format flawed
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03/19/18 03:36 PM
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MikeSouza
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look at another way.....the difference between 1st place and 10th was only 5lbs....(47lbs vs 42lbs)....each of the top 10 culled multiple times and weighed 15 fish total for three days...the difference between 1st place and 2nd place was only one pound meaning only 1 ounce per fish.... all of the top 10 are very good fishermen but seems to me when the weights are this close,luck determines who wins..... (and Jason Christi ain't had no luck in the classic).... Christie only weighed 14 fish. He didnt have a limit yesterday losing the classic by 1lb2oz and only having 4 fish last day...and losing two years ago because somebody caught a 29lb sack last day is....having no luck at the classic... Ok....... I wasnt talking about bad luck You said all he top 10 had 15 fish. I was stating that was not correct as Christie(3rd place) only had 14 fish for 3 days
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Re: Classic format flawed
[Re: grout-scout]
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03/19/18 03:55 PM
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TinRangerJim
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I would rather there be no practice time at all, just show up and fish just like MLF. ^^^^This. Pre-fishing is over-rated
"Rip Some Lips" Nevadan by birth, Texan by choice Retired USAF, 1966-1989 Jim C.
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Re: Classic format flawed
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03/19/18 04:03 PM
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leethefishking
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We are all now dumber for having read this post and may god have mercy on your soul.
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Re: Classic format flawed
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03/19/18 04:13 PM
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I think BASS is doing a great job with there business.. They have a committee of present and past anglers that they ask for input .
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Re: Classic format flawed
[Re: JFB]
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03/19/18 04:25 PM
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Bruce Bullard
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Tournament format is fine, problem I have is Basstrakk, it takes all the anticipation out of the weigh in. Why even watch when it is that predictable at the end.
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Re: Classic format flawed
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03/19/18 04:27 PM
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catslayer
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Id rather them have no practice... or at most 1 day... like 99% of us get to fish
"I'll never mess with bee's or wasp anymore, and I'll never gig another beaver..." Words from a man who learned things the hard way
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Re: Classic format flawed
[Re: JFB]
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03/19/18 04:29 PM
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catslayer
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Christie got beat by edwin 2 years ago. Guy set the record to win it, shake his hand, move on.
Christie LOST this one himself... any keeper yesterday and he wins...
"I'll never mess with bee's or wasp anymore, and I'll never gig another beaver..." Words from a man who learned things the hard way
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Re: Classic format flawed
[Re: grout-scout]
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03/19/18 05:34 PM
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Luke Scribner
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I would rather there be no practice time at all, just show up and fish just like MLF. +1
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Re: Classic format flawed
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03/19/18 05:49 PM
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GIG'EM AGGIES
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Actually it's exactly how I would like to see a classic won. Someone figuring it out basically that day and not from simply repeating practice. There are many really good fishermen that excel simply because they continually spend time on the water continually patterning fish on their lake(like a guide) and then there are really gifted fishermen that can continually adapt to changing lakes and changing patterns(successful tournament anglers). Was some measure of luck involved? His finally "figuring it out at the right time"? Sure, luck will always play a part in fishing...always. Talent/gifting though prevail at this level and I don't think the format or timing of practice "flawed the outcome". Exactly. 99.9% of the time the best guy wins and that's the purpose of the Classic. Definitely worked this time. I would have liked Christie to win but he was missing #15 and Lee got his. Best man won again.
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Re: Classic format flawed
[Re: JFB]
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03/19/18 05:52 PM
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1bassdaddy
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I like the zero-practice format.
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Re: Classic format flawed
[Re: GIG'EM AGGIES]
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03/19/18 05:53 PM
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Ranger1
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Re: Classic format flawed
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03/19/18 05:55 PM
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ChanceHuiet
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Im a huge fan of watching the Classic and even a fan of Jorden Lee. However, I think they spread out practice for this event way too much prior to the start. It seems pretty obvious that Lee had nothing good going in practice so he just started over on day one and figured it out in the current conditions. My bet is that if he discovered some developing patterns in practice that he too would have been surprised by how much the fish moved in their time off. Yes, he won fair and square but I really think a lot of it was the luck of having a terrible practice and this is too big of a tournament for that. Im not talking about the need for adjustments based on conditions, this event proved to me it required a complete restart. Not how I want to see a Classic won. Anyone else think the same? WHAT???? Wtf are you smoking. Wow
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Re: Classic format flawed
[Re: JFB]
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03/19/18 06:33 PM
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Champion1
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No JFB I don't agree with you at all. Figuring out the fish daily is part of the fun of tournament fishing!
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