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 Spine surgery fusing L5 S1?
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03/06/18 05:41 PM
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Bob Davis
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Well, I scheduled to have this done in May. Anyone ever have a TLIF fuse done? I have been having left hip and knee pain after walking a lot or climbing stairs for about a year. One Hip doctor was ready to change out my hip. A second opinion with a more reputable surgeon said No its not your hip that is bad it is your spinal nerve pinched. Sent me to a good spine guy and he had be get some steroid shots in a very localized spot. That fixed me but only for a few weeks. I had two shots and they both helped but even after therapy (6 weeks, once a week), it didn't fix it. I am not in any pain just sitting or most normal activity but if I climb some stairs or walk a lot, it barks at me. I don't want to go downhill from here so I am opting to get it fixed. What say ye?
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Re: Spine surgery fusing L5 S1?
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03/06/18 05:47 PM
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I'd ask about a Laminectomy before doing the fusion. It may provide all the relief you need.
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Re: Spine surgery fusing L5 S1?
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03/06/18 05:52 PM
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Bob Davis
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I'd ask about a Laminectomy before doing the fusion. It may provide all the relief you need. Great advice, thank you. I asked him that in a round about way. I said can't you just scrape off the bone spur area. He said he could but the percentage of success was not that good since they have to take out some butterfly looking bone structure to get to the area. Apparently I cracked my tailbone and L5 when I as a kid sometime or other. When it healed it made a "step" and this bone step then encroached on the spinal nerve channels. I'm 64 and don't want to become more of a limper than I am now. Walking and being active is my road to longevity I think. I dunno. Good question though.
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Re: Spine surgery fusing L5 S1?
[Re: Bob Davis]
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03/06/18 06:01 PM
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Are you dealing with an orthopedic or neurologist? I had a diskectomy in 1990 after many months of major sciatic pain in my left leg. Very easy procedure a Neurosurgeon removed the hearniated part of the disc and I have been good since. I know some that had the full fusion procedure and they said their results were not as good but that was 1990 so take it for what its worth but like I say I have been good since.
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Re: Spine surgery fusing L5 S1?
[Re: Bob Davis]
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03/06/18 06:01 PM
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My Neurosurgeon in Tyler, Dr. Detwiler, told me to ride the injections as long as they worked. Once I couldn't stand the pain any longer, come back and he'll do a Laminectomy. He said only after all that could he recommend spinal fusion. I have no discs left in my neck, Bob. The pain from pinched nerves and muscle spasms got so bad four years ago, I just wanted relief! One Neuro here said fusion, 3 or four of them which would have left me disabled. So I went to Dr. Detwiler for a second opinion. After 3 sets of 3 injections between the bottom three vertebrae in my neck, 6 weeks apart, the excruciating pain finally went away. I've been virtually pain free now for about 4 years, but I'm starting to have pain issues again, so I'll probably be getting the injections again, soon.
Also, what about a synthetic disc? They're not approved for use in the cervical vertebrae but are for lumbar surgeries.
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Re: Spine surgery fusing L5 S1?
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03/06/18 06:05 PM
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I'd ask about a Laminectomy before doing the fusion. It may provide all the relief you need. I was thinking a headectomy
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Re: Spine surgery fusing L5 S1?
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03/06/18 06:05 PM
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I considered it 
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Re: Spine surgery fusing L5 S1?
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03/06/18 06:06 PM
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My Neurosurgeon in Tyler, Dr. Detwiler, told me to ride the injections as long as they worked. Once I couldn't stand the pain any longer, come back and he'll do a Laminectomy. He said only after all that could he recommend spinal fusion. I have no discs left in my neck, Bob. The pain from pinched nerves and muscle spasms got so bad four years ago, I just wanted relief! One Neuro here said fusion, 3 or four of them which would have left me disabled. So I went to Dr. Detwiler for a second opinion. After 3 sets of 3 injections between the bottom three vertebrae in my neck, 6 weeks apart, the excruciating pain finally went away. I've been virtually pain free now for about 4 years, but I'm starting to have pain issues again, so I'll probably be getting the injections again, soon.
Also, what about a synthetic disc? They're not approved for use in the cervical vertebrae but are for lumbar surgeries.
Watch those steroid shots Fouz, I have had a lot of Doctors tell me that they are not good for you in the long term.
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Re: Spine surgery fusing L5 S1?
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03/06/18 06:08 PM
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that would scare me. Steve Kerrs went bad.
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Re: Spine surgery fusing L5 S1?
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03/06/18 06:10 PM
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My Neurosurgeon in Tyler, Dr. Detwiler, told me to ride the injections as long as they worked. Once I couldn't stand the pain any longer, come back and he'll do a Laminectomy. He said only after all that could he recommend spinal fusion. I have no discs left in my neck, Bob. The pain from pinched nerves and muscle spasms got so bad four years ago, I just wanted relief! One Neuro here said fusion, 3 or four of them which would have left me disabled. So I went to Dr. Detwiler for a second opinion. After 3 sets of 3 injections between the bottom three vertebrae in my neck, 6 weeks apart, the excruciating pain finally went away. I've been virtually pain free now for about 4 years, but I'm starting to have pain issues again, so I'll probably be getting the injections again, soon.
Also, what about a synthetic disc? They're not approved for use in the cervical vertebrae but are for lumbar surgeries.
Watch those steroid shots Fouz, I have had a lot of Doctors tell me that they are not good for you in the long term. Nothing really is. I say do what makes the most sense for you.
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Re: Spine surgery fusing L5 S1?
[Re: Bob Davis]
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03/06/18 06:12 PM
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Bob, I have major issues in my lower back and every Doctor will tell you to try what ever you can until nothing works before you do a fusion. Some say to prolong so they can get better procedures. Some say they are risky (for me anyway because mine comes and goes). Some say that it puts too much stress on the joint above the fusion and those would need fusions over time (my Mom has had three back fusions). You will know it is time to do yours when you reach that point.
Best of luck to you.
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Re: Spine surgery fusing L5 S1?
[Re: Bob Davis]
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03/06/18 06:18 PM
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I have five cervical vertebrae fused.
The first four were done in 1966 and the procedure had not existed before it was devised by the doctors to patch me bad together. The fifth one occur fed n 2001 and was the use of a torture devise called a halo.
In the 80s I was advised to have three lower back vertebrae fused but I decided to pass. Thirty years later I wish I had gone along with the surgery.
I guess this doesn't help much but I know what you are going through.
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Re: Spine surgery fusing L5 S1?
[Re: Bob Davis]
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03/06/18 06:19 PM
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Bob i have had a l5/s1 fusion.
PM me if you want any info.
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Re: Spine surgery fusing L5 S1?
[Re: fouzman]
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03/06/18 06:35 PM
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Bob Davis
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My Neurosurgeon in Tyler, Dr. Detwiler, told me to ride the injections as long as they worked. Once I couldn't stand the pain any longer, come back and he'll do a Laminectomy. He said only after all that could he recommend spinal fusion. I have no discs left in my neck, Bob. The pain from pinched nerves and muscle spasms got so bad four years ago, I just wanted relief! One Neuro here said fusion, 3 or four of them which would have left me disabled. So I went to Dr. Detwiler for a second opinion. After 3 sets of 3 injections between the bottom three vertebrae in my neck, 6 weeks apart, the excruciating pain finally went away. I've been virtually pain free now for about 4 years, but I'm starting to have pain issues again, so I'll probably be getting the injections again, soon.
Also, what about a synthetic disc? They're not approved for use in the cervical vertebrae but are for lumbar surgeries.
Yes, it does include a synthetic disc. Looked like teflon or something. Mine is lumbar for sure. I've had two Steroid injections into the area on my left side and they both helped but only for 3 weeks or so. The MRI and the xrays both show the problem I think pretty clear. But I'm not a Doctor. These doctors at the Carrell Clinic in Dallas all seem to be the cream of the crop, mine is Dr. Andrew Clavenna and the hip guy there that told me it doesn't look like a hip issue is Dr. Paul Peters. Clavenna seems to be on top of his game. I hope this surgery finally gets me back up to walking and climbing stairs more, I could use the exercise. Thanks for the info Fouz.
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Re: Spine surgery fusing L5 S1?
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03/06/18 06:37 PM
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Bob Davis
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I have five cervical vertebrae fused.
The first four were done in 1966 and the procedure had not existed before it was devised by the doctors to patch me bad together. The fifth one occur fed n 2001 and was the use of a torture devise called a halo.
In the 80s I was advised to have three lower back vertebrae fused but I decided to pass. Thirty years later I wish I had gone along with the surgery.
I guess this doesn't help much but I know what you are going through. Thanks for the info, it is interesting to hear. I wish you well.
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