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[Re: Canino]
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02/27/18 07:33 PM
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...manufacturers will mass-produce cheap versions as fast as they can. As long as the price is low enough, more people will buy them at the low prices as fast as they hit store shelves.
No matter where you are on this whole gun debate deal, any reasonable citizen has to feel concerned about this. What should he be concerned about? Medical errors are the third leading cause of death in the U.S., after heart disease and cancer, causing at least 250,000 deaths every year. This is concerning. There are about 32,000 deaths caused by car accidents per year. This is concerning. Manufacturing more rifles is not on my list of concerns. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country. James Madison
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Re: Learned something new about the infamous AR-15
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02/27/18 07:42 PM
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Ok, then I will call them what they are, "War Weapons" We had a Viet Nam vet who carried one during his service. Yes we both realize that one is fully auto and one not, but we also realize that isnt much of a difference in reality. I have fired a fully auto M16 and an AR and I could hit the ground fully auto. I know a Vietnam vet that carried a fork with him every day in his mess kit. One day they were ambushed while they were eating breakfast and he stabbed a vietcong in the throat with his fork, killing him. So by your very own definition, you are using a "War Weapon" every day at your kitchen table.
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Re: Learned something new about the infamous AR-15
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02/27/18 07:46 PM
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...manufacturers will mass-produce cheap versions as fast as they can. As long as the price is low enough, more people will buy them at the low prices as fast as they hit store shelves.
No matter where you are on this whole gun debate deal, any reasonable citizen has to feel concerned about this. What should he be concerned about? Medical errors are the third leading cause of death in the U.S., after heart disease and cancer, causing at least 250,000 deaths every year. This is concerning. There are about 32,000 deaths caused by car accidents per year. This is concerning. Manufacturing more rifles is not on my list of concerns. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country. James Madison again with apples and hand-grenade comeback. medicine(not made to kill people) is working non-stop and spending billions of dollars to SAVE people. Cars(not manufactured to kill people) have had govt mandates for decades to make them safer with strict safety guidelines, same with aircraft ridiculous comparison
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Re: Learned something new about the infamous AR-15
[Re: chickenman]
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02/27/18 07:47 PM
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There we have it.
The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country. James Madison
Stress less, relax more. Go fishing.
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Re: Learned something new about the infamous AR-15
[Re: soggybottom]
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02/27/18 07:48 PM
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I don't get to pick the car you drive and you don't get to pick the gun I own. Cars are more deadly than guns yet cars are not mentioned once in the Constitution. ...manufacturers will mass-produce cheap versions as fast as they can. As long as the price is low enough, more people will buy them at the low prices as fast as they hit store shelves.
No matter where you are on this whole gun debate deal, any reasonable citizen has to feel concerned about this. What should he be concerned about? Medical errors are the third leading cause of death in the U.S., after heart disease and cancer, causing at least 250,000 deaths every year. This is concerning. There are about 32,000 deaths caused by car accidents per year. This is concerning. Manufacturing more rifles is not on my list of concerns. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country. James Madison again with apples and hand-grenade comeback. medicine(not made to kill people) is working non-stop and spending billions of dollars to SAVE people. Cars(not manufactured to kill people) have had govt mandates for decades to make them safer with strict safety guidelines, same with aircraft ridiculous comparison
Stress less, relax more. Go fishing.
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Re: Learned something new about the infamous AR-15
[Re: chickenman]
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02/27/18 07:51 PM
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Does not appear to show of they were in groups? A mass shooting, according to the FBI, is a situation where 4 or more people are murdered. Most of those events targeted groups of people. I would think that it would be difficult to carry out mass murder without targeting groups of people. Would you post the source of the graph please? I'd like to know more on this. Several interesting and creditable sources available online. You will not find CNN, NBC, or FOX reporting the data either. There are 90 reported incidents from the stats. There are 99 handguns used in 67 incidents with 4 or more getting shot but not necessarily killed. There are 43 rifles used in 35 incidents with 4 or more shot. There are almost twice as many incidents from handguns than rifles. This agrees with a posting reference I made on another post that most shootings occur in residential areas, as in homes with handguns. But what is missing is the number shot per incident. Thanks for posting the source.
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Re: Learned something new about the infamous AR-15
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02/27/18 07:52 PM
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again with apples and hand-grenade comeback. medicine(not made to kill people) is working non-stop and spending billions of dollars to SAVE people.
Cars(not manufactured to kill people) have had govt mandates for decades to make them safer with strict safety guidelines, same with aircraft
ridiculous comparison
So do guns. Modern guns are very safe. Lots of technology goes into trigger sensitivity and safety mechanisms. Where the apples to hand grenades comes into play is that when somebody takes a plane and flies it into a building killing 3000 people... for some strange reason nobody starts chanting we should ban airplanes.
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Re: Learned something new about the infamous AR-15
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02/27/18 08:29 PM
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What about Fast Food? It's killing folks left and right.
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Re: Learned something new about the infamous AR-15
[Re: John175☮]
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02/27/18 08:37 PM
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There we have it.
The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country. James Madison
fantastic, if people want to join a "MILITIA" and form a organized, well trained group , that would be great and leave their AR locked up at the HQ. The issue is whackos buying very efficient "war weapons". Now that is a reasonable suggestion.
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Re: Learned something new about the infamous AR-15
[Re: COFF]
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02/27/18 08:41 PM
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I know a Vietnam vet that carried a fork with him every day in his mess kit. One day they were ambushed while they were eating breakfast and he stabbed a vietcong in the throat with his fork, killing him.
That's so damn gangster.
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Re: Learned something new about the infamous AR-15
[Re: soggybottom]
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02/27/18 08:44 PM
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again with apples and hand-grenade comeback. medicine(not made to kill people) is working non-stop and spending billions of dollars to SAVE people.
Cars(not manufactured to kill people) have had govt mandates for decades to make them safer with strict safety guidelines, same with aircraft
ridiculous comparison
My semi-automatic rifles were not manufactured to kill people. How many lives have semi-automatic rifles saved vs killed? It's not a ridiculous comparison.
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Re: Learned something new about the infamous AR-15
[Re: soggybottom]
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02/27/18 08:48 PM
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There we have it.
The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country. James Madison
fantastic, if people want to join a "MILITIA" and form a organized, well trained group , that would be great and leave their AR locked up at the HQ. The issue is whackos buying very efficient "war weapons". Now that is a reasonable suggestion. Well I could agree with you,But that would just make us both "WRONG". 
I would agree with you , but then we would both be WRONG !!!!!
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Re: Learned something new about the infamous AR-15
[Re: chickenman]
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02/27/18 08:54 PM
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again with apples and hand-grenade comeback. medicine(not made to kill people) is working non-stop and spending billions of dollars to SAVE people.
Cars(not manufactured to kill people) have had govt mandates for decades to make them safer with strict safety guidelines, same with aircraft
ridiculous comparison
My semi-automatic rifles were not manufactured to kill people. How many lives have semi-automatic rifles saved vs killed? It's not a ridiculous comparison. comparing food, forks and medical care to an AR is about as disingenuous and trite as it gets. An AR is made to kill people. It was slightly altered from war weapons to make it legal at the time. All guns are manufactured to kill stuff. Like a hammer meets a nail. there is no other reason.
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Re: Learned something new about the infamous AR-15
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02/27/18 08:56 PM
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some people are out there man... 
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Re: Learned something new about the infamous AR-15
[Re: chickenman]
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02/27/18 08:57 PM
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...manufacturers will mass-produce cheap versions as fast as they can. As long as the price is low enough, more people will buy them at the low prices as fast as they hit store shelves.
No matter where you are on this whole gun debate deal, any reasonable citizen has to feel concerned about this. What should he be concerned about? The concern should be for flooding a society with as many firearms as economically feasible for a manufacturer of said firearms. It's like we only have 300 million firearms now floating around. If we can make them cheap enough, you know, we can maybe reach a billion arms on America's streets by 2040. That's the dream, I guess.
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