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 Re: Opinions on Bowfishing?
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02/27/18 11:19 PM
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rickt300
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I wish it was legal to gil net carp on certain lakes! Joe Poole and Lake Whitney come to mind. Carp do directly affect gamefish populations by eating their eggs and muddying up the water where non rough fish spawn. What is odd is that the sheer number of carp in certain lakes and that the carpers are so selfish they won't manage them or let anyone else manage them. Every time I see carp spawning I get my spear out and kill as many as possible. I give them away or use them to make cut and punch bait for catfish. Carp is not even an especially good cut bait unless salted.
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Re: Opinions on Bowfishing?
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02/28/18 03:16 PM
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Jake Blood
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I give them away or use them to make cut and punch bait for catfish. Speaking only for myself rick, but you stated what I think is the fundamental difference between what I posted and what you do..... no waste.
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Re: Opinions on Bowfishing?
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02/28/18 04:08 PM
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bowhuntfisher
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Wow, sounds like I need to head to Lake PooLe with my Bow during the carp spawn!
Lol, JK, I have plenty of targets down here when they (carp) spawn.
But most waters are murky down here and if the carp are not spawning on top, you cant see them to shoot them, so for the rest of the year, they flurish, unfortantely. Same with Gar, and Gar do love to eat Bass for sure, but I'm glad TPWD put a limit on Alligator Gar for 1 a day. Manage the resource, Hmmm think that has been said before on here.
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Re: Opinions on Bowfishing?
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03/01/18 03:26 AM
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Many of you would change your mind and support bowfishing if you had seen as many gar as I have seen with crappie and bass in their stomachs. I am no biologist, but it does not take a science degree to make personal observation. I can tell you the fact is that gar prefer to eat game fish over carp, buffalo, or drum. It makes me sick to think about how many game fish the big gar are eating every day. Most of the fish I see in gar stomachs are smaller game fish under 4 inches, but those are fish that could have grown into trophies. Anybody who tells you that gar do not have a negative impact on the game fish population just doesn't know what they are talking about.
If that's what we're going by, then we'd have to kill other bass, catfish, and essentially all predatory species. It's a fish eat fish world down there, and it's better for them to die small than big, as it allows those that survive to get bigger simply by virtue of there being less competition. To be honest, I don't like the concept of bowfishing whatsoever, but what really bothers me is the killing of large fish that maintain population through breeding, pass on their "trophy genes," and keep all the small ones from taking over.
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Re: Opinions on Bowfishing?
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03/01/18 04:30 AM
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I'm no expert on the topic. But I see more carp and gar on a regular basis than most other fish because of their top water feeding habits.
I can't imagine bow fishing could ever have an impact on their numbers so go for it.
But leaving any wildlife killed on the ramp or dumping them is irresponsible. Be it deer, dove, quail, squirrel, etc.
If you are going to take the life do it for a purpose.
JMHO.
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Re: Opinions on Bowfishing?
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03/01/18 04:37 AM
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I'm no expert on the topic. But I see more carp and gar on a regular basis than most other fish because of their top water feeding habits.
I can't imagine bow fishing could ever have an impact on their numbers so go for it.
But leaving any wildlife killed on the ramp or dumping them is irresponsible. Be it deer, dove, quail, squirrel, etc.
If you are going to take the life do it for a purpose.
JMHO. Gar breathe air, so you're going to see quite a bit of them if they're around.
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Re: Opinions on Bowfishing?
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03/01/18 01:49 PM
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I'm no expert on the topic. But I see more carp and gar on a regular basis than most other fish because of their top water feeding habits.
I can't imagine bow fishing could ever have an impact on their numbers so go for it.
But leaving any wildlife killed on the ramp or dumping them is irresponsible. Be it deer, dove, quail, squirrel, etc.
If you are going to take the life do it for a purpose.
JMHO. Gar breathe air, so you're going to see quite a bit of them if they're around. Yea, there are so many gar in one lake I fish, I am going to have to buy a bow fishing outfit and walk the bank to knock them down a bit, then maybe I can successfully wade fish for crappie....of course, it would be much faster and easier, if I could legally just take a .22 and a few boxes of shells...If there are ANY TPW biologists in the House, please send me a PM, we seriously need to open up the regulations a bit to rid some of our lakes of all these rough fish...particularly since they are taking over our lakes...    
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Re: Opinions on Bowfishing?
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03/06/18 04:45 PM
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cannot bowfish for game fish such as bass- it is illegal. only carp and gar- rough fish.
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Re: Opinions on Bowfishing?
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03/07/18 02:40 AM
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I'm no expert on the topic. But I see more carp and gar on a regular basis than most other fish because of their top water feeding habits.
I can't imagine bow fishing could ever have an impact on their numbers so go for it.
But leaving any wildlife killed on the ramp or dumping them is irresponsible. Be it deer, dove, quail, squirrel, etc.
If you are going to take the life do it for a purpose.
JMHO. Gar breathe air, so you're going to see quite a bit of them if they're around. Gar actually can use Gil�s to filter o2 or gulp air. They spend over 90% of their lives using gills. You really should learn about the subject you are talking about.
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Re: Opinions on Bowfishing?
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03/07/18 04:02 AM
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I'm no expert on the topic. But I see more carp and gar on a regular basis than most other fish because of their top water feeding habits.
I can't imagine bow fishing could ever have an impact on their numbers so go for it.
But leaving any wildlife killed on the ramp or dumping them is irresponsible. Be it deer, dove, quail, squirrel, etc.
If you are going to take the life do it for a purpose.
JMHO. Gar breathe air, so you're going to see quite a bit of them if they're around. Gar actually can use Gil�s to filter o2 or gulp air. They spend over 90% of their lives using gills. You really should learn about the subject you are talking about. . Just because gar spend most of their time breathing with their gills doesn't mean they don't breathe air. Of course I'm anti-bowfishing, you'd be too if the roles were reversed and carp were prized while bass (or whatever your favorite fish happens to be) were bowfished. It's unwise and immature to throw out accusations.
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Re: Opinions on Bowfishing?
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03/09/18 03:32 AM
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Re: Opinions on Bowfishing?
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03/09/18 12:46 PM
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BMART
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Unfortunate when a subject about fishing turns into political name calling, I see this in other fishing forums too
If it's legal ain't no way in hell it's catch and release, it's CATCH & GREASE, except ROUGH (TRASH) Fish
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Re: Opinions on Bowfishing?
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03/09/18 02:36 PM
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bowhuntfisher
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Nice Buffalo carp there ToasterWEyes.
Are Buffalo good to eat, do they have the same amount of bones in the meat? I have noticed their meat is whiter than the common and grass carp meat is. I have only noticed when I cut them up to use for cut bait.
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Re: Opinions on Bowfishing?
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03/09/18 02:59 PM
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Many of you would change your mind and support bowfishing if you had seen as many gar as I have seen with crappie and bass in their stomachs. I am no biologist, but it does not take a science degree to make personal observation. I can tell you the fact is that gar prefer to eat game fish over carp, buffalo, or drum. It makes me sick to think about how many game fish the big gar are eating every day. Most of the fish I see in gar stomachs are smaller game fish under 4 inches, but those are fish that could have grown into trophies. Anybody who tells you that gar do not have a negative impact on the game fish population just doesn't know what they are talking about.
I would disagree with you, I doubt Gar is even close to the top predator of bass. I support bowfishing. But this is not a reason to support it.
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Re: Opinions on Bowfishing?
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03/09/18 04:51 PM
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rickt300
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I'm no expert on the topic. But I see more carp and gar on a regular basis than most other fish because of their top water feeding habits.
I can't imagine bow fishing could ever have an impact on their numbers so go for it.
But leaving any wildlife killed on the ramp or dumping them is irresponsible. Be it deer, dove, quail, squirrel, etc.
If you are going to take the life do it for a purpose.
JMHO. Gar breathe air, so you're going to see quite a bit of them if they're around. Gar actually can use Gil�s to filter o2 or gulp air. They spend over 90% of their lives using gills. You really should learn about the subject you are talking about. . Just because gar spend most of their time breathing with their gills doesn't mean they don't breathe air. Of course I'm anti-bowfishing, you'd be too if the roles were reversed and carp were prized while bass (or whatever your favorite fish happens to be) were bowfished. It's unwise and immature to throw out accusations. Odd can you say why Carp are not "prized"? Has it occurred to you there is a reason Carp are not "prized"? Or why they are called "rough" fish? Could be a very good reason they are legal to bowfish, has that come to mind for you? It is guys like you that refuse to manage the resource that are the reason carp are legal to bowfish along with their other not so "prized" traits.
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