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Re: Service Animals [Re: lakeforkfisherman] #12602541 01/30/18 08:45 PM
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Re: Service Animals [Re: Slefler] #12602575 01/30/18 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted By: Slefler
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Again, I cannot Barney Style this for you in a more simple fashion, people was a generalization. If that doesnt make sense to you then that would explain some things...

KO youd think he would enjoy being around dogs because like him, they cant spell either.


I dont know, man. I just went back and read it and it seems like you would prefer to stay at home with your mutt, Lew, than walk the streets with some of the people society produces. Then you escalated it by comparing Jay to someone else you apparently dont like.


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Re: Service Animals [Re: lakeforkfisherman] #12602681 01/30/18 10:08 PM
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Dogs have an extremely positive effect on people that are in distress. I wouldnt have believed it until I started seeing trained dogs in critical care areas of hospitals. Those dogs are really chill. They dont seem like they are having fun but it is their job. If you have a well trained dog or a puppy or a kitten see if you can take it to a nursing home, your perspective will be forever changed.

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Originally Posted By: TR176
Dogs have an extremely positive effect on people that are in distress. I wouldnt have believed it until I started seeing trained dogs in critical care areas of hospitals. Those dogs are really chill. They dont seem like they are having fun but it is their job. If you have a well trained dog or a puppy or a kitten see if you can take it to a nursing home, your perspective will be forever changed.


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Re: Service Animals [Re: lakeforkfisherman] #12602903 01/31/18 01:02 AM
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Does anyone enjoy hanging out with dog people?


Re: Service Animals [Re: Smurfs] #12602933 01/31/18 01:17 AM
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Dogs have an extremely positive effect on people that are in distress. I wouldnt have believed it until I started seeing trained dogs in critical care areas of hospitals. Those dogs are really chill. They dont seem like they are having fun but it is their job. If you have a well trained dog or a puppy or a kitten see if you can take it to a nursing home, your perspective will be forever changed.


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Re: Service Animals [Re: Flooringit] #12603097 01/31/18 02:31 AM
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I am personally against service dogs in general. I love animals, own 2 dogs. I enjoy spending time with them. But watching service dogs in places with no smile or wagging tail just makes me look as them as if they were slaves. If you need help get a family member or hire a human. Just my .02 I dont like zoos either really. Just big animal cages. I think some places do good help animals that get hurt but animals arent put her to amuse us. I know seems like Im a hippacrit I own 2 dogs. I got them from a shelter where theyd prolly been put to sleep and now have a good home is my o my reasoning. My kid loves them also.


Well your .02 shows your ignorance. Most good service dogs are extremely happy and well taken care of. Maybe you should shift your attention to the people who just leave their dog in the backyard all day without giving it any exercise or attention.

Re: Service Animals [Re: Westside.] #12603359 01/31/18 04:59 AM
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Re: Service Animals [Re: lakeforkfisherman] #12603438 01/31/18 11:46 AM
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Well, JayC, does that make you hate Slefler more than Methlahoma?


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Re: Service Animals [Re: Okie Poke] #12603480 01/31/18 12:51 PM
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Well, JayC, does that make you hate Slefler more than Methlahoma?



No hate, just pity. Methlahoma does suck but not to the level of thinking dogs are better than people.

Re: Service Animals [Re: Ghost4BH] #12605766 02/01/18 09:18 PM
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Re: Service Animals [Re: lakeforkfisherman] #12606043 02/02/18 12:18 AM
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The service dog issue has gotten crazy. I know several people that will admit they did not need a service dog they just love the pooch so much they want to take it everywhere they go. Everyone else be damned.
I am convinced the majority of people that have service dogs are doing so illegally. You can buy a service dog harness anywhere and only airlines and hospitals ask to see the actual permits.


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The service dog issue has gotten crazy. I know several people that will admit they did not need a service dog they just love the pooch so much they want to take it everywhere they go. Everyone else be damned.
I am convinced the majority of people that have service dogs are doing so illegally. You can buy a service dog harness anywhere and only airlines and hospitals ask to see the actual permits.


Service dogs or Emotional support dogs? If you meant EMS dogs I agree. If you meant service dogs your wrong. Lot of things go into being placed with a service dog.

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Its hard to tell what is and what is not a true service animal. But there is some guidance provided by the ADA.

Service animals are dogs, the only exception is a miniature horse which can also be trained to guide people with blindness. Those are the only two species that can be true service animals, period. If its not one of those two critters its not a service animal and does not need to be allowed entry anywhere as a service animal.

BUT other laws allow other species to be considered emotional support (ESA), comfort, or therapy animals. Those laws apply to public housing and airlines, so emotional support animals are not required by law to have access to restaurants, bars, stores etc. in Texas. (Laws in other states will differ.)

To determine if a dog is a service animal, a person may be asked two questions:

Do you have the animal because of a disability?
What is the animal trained to do?

If the person is able to answer those two questions about their dog they must be allowed entry. You cannot require them to demonstrate the training, produce any proof of certification or documentation, wear a vest, or be separated from their dog. There is no required fee or national registry for service animals. You cannot restrict the breed.

You can require the dog to be under control of the owner at all times, not show signs of aggression e.g. excessive barking, lunging, biting, observe local animal health codes, not [censored] everywhere. You should probably give the owner a chance to correct such problems before removing the dog.

Emotional support animals CAN be asked for documentation. A doctor or mental health professional note stating there is a need for the animal should be enough. Again, these comfort animals must only be allowed consideration for entry into public housing (apartments, dorms, maybe hotels) or planes.

Many businesses have given up on trying to tell the difference on what is not a service animal, so they are allowing almost all pets. Crooked businesses have popped up selling fake ESA or even service animal certificates online. All this is making it harder for the people who need true service animals. Eventually, someone big will be sued and it might make it to the supremes where hopefully we can get some clarification. I deal with this question almost daily, Ive even been bit by a service dog so hopefully at some point we will get some clarity.

https://www.ada.gov/regs2010/service_animal_qa.html

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